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#167434 50 Sun Sep 25 10:32:11 1994 [Where am I?] Monica Traphagan [Why are there all these Axes?] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
pigs are cute when they're clean.
#167435 50 Sun Sep 25 12:25:01 1994 [I cannot walk] Blue Canary [But I can fly.] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
Snoopy: That,uh, thing you said about the uh cats and there relatives, On Oprah and stuff they alsways say INSANE people do that.
#167436 50 Sun Sep 25 17:40:48 1994 [I am here,] Jon Nailor [But only in body.] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
Snoopy- Remmeber your normal run of the mill human doesn't screw they're child. But, There are some sicko's inthe world. Homo Sapein is an animal, but an advanced animal.
#167437 50 Sun Sep 25 20:09:10 1994 [I killed the] Snoopy [
bRed Baron!] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
I know. I know. I couldn't resist saying that. I've been thinking the weirdest things latley. I've heard of all sorts of things about that. I also have a Psychology book and have read about weird senerios where a lot of that sort of thing takes place. Also, sense you brought that up, Jon... ABout people being animals, just more advanced... Okay. At about three months, Mice are ready for reproduction, right? And they DO, trust me. (I'm NOT referring to Mouse himself, I had pet mice for awhile) Anyway... so, animals pretty much reproduce as soon as they're able. So, why can't humans do that? Why do we have to wait so long first? I know many answers to this, but I think if you put this as an option to have girls having babies when they're able as apposed to when society today says they can, I think most of the reasons why not that you throw at me would be different... Think about it. :)
#167438 50 Mon Sep 26 00:18:08 1994 [I am here,] Jon Nailor [But only in body.] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
Elephants have to wait almost 23 year before they are able to have babies. It is all dependant on the species<sp> of animal, and climate. There are documented cases in S. America of 8 year old human girls having babies. As a man I would not know, but that sounds very uncomfortable. If I remmember right you are 15 or 16, by my limitted medical knowelge, you are still alittle young too. One has to remmember that having babies to early is more damaging to the body than having them later. The main reason is the body is not fully developed and child birth causes major changes.
#167439 50 Mon Sep 26 17:55:48 1994 [I killed the] Snoopy [
bRed Baron!] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
I know. I guess you're right. But if a girl is ready, then... I duno. It's our culutre and all that moral stuff. You know? Oh, and I'm not planning anything wierd in case anyone's wondering. I have just thought of this type of thing a lot. I love babies and would like one of my own, but I can and WILL wait. :)
#167781 50 Fri Sep 30 14:00:03 1994 [Where am I?] Monica Traphagan [Why are there all these Axes?] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... this is not for me... I know nothin' of this topic
#168899 50 Mon Oct 3 17:10:49 1994 [I killed the] Snoopy [
bRed Baron!] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
I know people do it all the time, I think it's sick when they're siblings or related closely, you know? Like I suppose fifth cousins would almost be alright, but... You really shouldn't get that close to your family, I don't think. Is that what you're asking, Freejack?
#169409 50 Tue Oct 4 22:01:55 1994 [I am here,] Jon Nailor [But only in body.] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
Fifth cousins are hardly Family. That is almost another species.
#169580 50 Thu Oct 6 14:08:22 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
humans are almost another species.
#170207 50 Fri Oct 7 09:48:12 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
me too. <snicker>
#169752 50 Fri Oct 7 15:33:40 1994 Freejack @ Digital Free America, CyberHell, USA
i'm not sure what i was asking now... though why do people continue to do/think/perform acts/behaviours that are considered disturbed/wrong/immoral by society at large? are we supressing basic human nature? i certainly hope not but it is an interesting question... maybe that's what i was thinking before...
#170022 50 Fri Oct 7 22:31:10 1994 [I killed the] Snoopy [
bRed Baron!] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
Hey, I have a few first cousins that could be another species... :)
#170350 50 Sun Oct 9 04:02:25 1994 Torch Song [seeks...] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
Depends on which "society" you're thinking about, Freejack. There are any number of acceptable behaviors in our so-called Western Civilization that I consider truly uncivilized...
#170654 50 Sun Oct 9 13:49:15 1994 [What did he say?] Bookworm [says that...] @ The Used BookStore, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
True TS. I often wonder if the word civilization is not applied wrongly to the western civilization. It so often appears to be totally uncivilized.
#171141 50 Mon Oct 10 16:44:50 1994 [I killed the] Snoopy [
bRed Baron!] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
I like your <snicker> it fits the conversation well. :)
#171313 50 Tue Oct 11 08:24:14 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
bw -- most "civilizations" would appear so if we really knew all the details of them.
#171357 50 Tue Oct 11 11:58:33 1994 [What did he say?] Bookworm [says that...] @ The Used BookStore, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
True ZK. But I still have to wonder.
#171481 50 Tue Oct 11 14:55:05 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
feel free to wonder. it's the one thing they haven't figured out how to tax yet.
#170864 50 Tue Oct 11 18:27:21 1994 Freejack @ Digital Free America, CyberHell, USA
yea, TS i was basically thinking american society in general... but, true enough... my own behaviour may be unacceptable to many... and i'm a first-rate citizen in general... heh heh.
#171558 50 Thu Oct 13 08:38:33 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
so much of any civilization is totally barbaric...
#171733 50 Thu Oct 13 16:02:20 1994 [It's] Diakonos [at your service.] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
"So much" and "totally" don't agree. I don't see our civilization as totally or even mostly barbaric.
#171736 50 Thu Oct 13 17:36:33 1994 [What did he say?] Bookworm [says that...] @ The Used BookStore, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
Diakonos- I think she meant "so much" as facets and "totally" refering to each facet that is barbaric.
#171734 50 Thu Oct 13 20:17:37 1994 Torch Song [seeks...] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
I'm not talking about individuals. There are just too many parts of our so-called culture that just do too much damage... What kind of civilization can be built by wounded people? And yet we keep trying to cram each other into ill-fitting, unrealistic molds simply because the molds are easier to deal with than REAL people who think and feel and defy categories.
#171735 50 Thu Oct 13 20:42:52 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
*I* didn't say totally... I'm not sure I'd agree about not mostly, depends on the day and the mood I guess. But damn sure a lot is.
#171737 50 Fri Oct 14 00:41:53 1994 [Too weary] Torch Song [to fight any longer] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
Yes, bw... too many parts are unacceptably cruel... and I keep finding more of them than facets that fit MY idea of civilized...
#171276 50 Fri Oct 14 08:18:00 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
what TS said.
#171932 50 Fri Oct 14 08:38:47 1994 [What did he say?] Bookworm [says that...] @ The Used BookStore, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
I know what you mean TS.
#171277 50 Fri Oct 14 13:33:42 1994 Blain Nelson @ Blain's World (not!) BBS, Ferndale, USA/WA/WHATCOM
Civilization is based on laws, rules, and manners. When those are ignored, civilization fails. But, again, remember that when you are creating civilization, you are not creating paradise or eutopia.
#172117 50 Sat Oct 15 17:31:54 1994 [It's] Diakonos [at your service.] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
I guess it goes back to what's going on in that "other room" where I said people see what they expect to see. I choose to see good and beauty around me and that is what I see. I don't have my head in the sand, but this kind of depressed mindset snowballs.
#172183 50 Sat Oct 15 21:38:08 1994 Blain Nelson @ Blain's World (not!) BBS, Ferndale, USA/WA/WHATCOM
It takes a little more looking sometimes, but it is in fact there -- the good stuff that is. And sometimes you just need to see that it's there so you don't forget and get overwhelmed by the icky stuff that is also in fact there.
#172184 50 Sat Oct 15 22:22:51 1994 [What's to eat?] Bookworm [cleared the shelves.] @ Dystopia ][, Bellingham, US/WA/Whatcom
Diakonos- sometimes we don't have a choice in what we see.
#172968 50 Sun Oct 16 02:13:52 1994 [I am here,] Jon Nailor [But only in body.] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
And how about a civilation with too many rules/laws/manners? Do you know how many Federal laws, codes, and regulations there are? Just this year, 1994, over 3000 new ones were enacted by our Congress. Remmember ignorance of the law is not a defence.
#172441 50 Sun Oct 16 12:48:42 1994 [Too weary] Torch Song [to fight any longer] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
Yup...no choice at all sometimes in what is seen, heard, or felt... Disorienting, to say the least (even if it is occasionally useful)
#172357 50 Sun Oct 16 23:25:54 1994 [It's] Diakonos [at your service.] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
Eeegads! Or is it Gadzooks! I just don't agree. There are choices. If the "scenery" is not what I want, I can go elsewhere. That may not be an easy choice, but it is a choice I have at my disposal. It is like the battered women syndrome where she keeps returning to the abusive relationship because she feels like there is no other choice. Well there is! No one is saying it is an easy choice, but it is nonetheless there. GET OUT!
#172358 50 Sun Oct 16 23:26:27 1994 [It's] Diakonos [at your service.] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
BTW, I just talked to such a gal today so that is why the example was so fresh in my mind.
#172746 50 Mon Oct 17 07:32:28 1994 [What did he say?] Bookworm [says that...] @ The Used BookStore, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
But what if there is a reason you have to stay?
#172748 50 Mon Oct 17 09:24:56 1994 Blain Nelson @ Blain's World (not!) BBS, Ferndale, USA/WA/WHATCOM
Diakonos -- When I come over with the OLB for you (sometime between now and Judgment Day) I'll bring over some DV material that I think will help when that sort of thing happens again.
#172747 50 Mon Oct 17 10:12:37 1994 [It's] Diakonos [at your service.] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
Bookworm - For example?
#172749 50 Mon Oct 17 13:21:42 1994 Torch Song @ Twilight Voice, City in the Clouds, US/WA/WHATCOM
Diakonos, I hear what you're saying, but I just am not up to the involved explanations it would take right now to explain that I was saying something entirely in a different area...suffice for now that our worlds are not the same, okay? One reason you have to stay, even if you don't want to: You're needed enough that leaving would be wrong.
#172821 50 Mon Oct 17 14:52:20 1994 [What did he say?] Bookworm [says that...] @ The Used BookStore, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
For example- What if it is the area you live or work in but can not afford to leave? I have been in that circumstance a couple of times. Sure there are good things but there are places that the bad outweighs the good. If you don't agree that is fine but I have to go with my experiences.
#172854 50 Mon Oct 17 21:22:08 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
many women stay because if they left they would die. Certainly it is a risk that if they stay they will die, but that is less certain and less immediate. and dammit, I'm tired of running around looking over my shoulder! as far as what TS and I were talking about, it's not as physical as seeing with your eyes, it is a far different kind of "knowing" and seeing... and it's less directable and less escapable. it just is. sometimes it's good, more often, far more often, it hurts.
#172967 50 Tue Oct 18 01:40:49 1994 [Under The Sea] LITTLE MERMAID @ Dystopia ][, Bellingham, US/WA/Whatcom
No longer (Fuming) upset at the silly things people think and leave behind.... "To err is human , To be human is Devine''
#173252 50 Tue Oct 18 01:41:32 1994 [What did he say?] Bookworm [says that...] @ The Used BookStore, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
I hear that ZK!
#173251 50 Tue Oct 18 08:58:00 1994 Blain Nelson @ Blain's World (not!) BBS, Ferndale, USA/WA/WHATCOM
Jon -- ignorance of the law has been a defense in this country for more than a decade. Too many laws is a bad idea. Disregarding all laws is an equally bad idea.
#173253 50 Tue Oct 18 12:36:26 1994 [dazed, confused] Torch Song [simulating functionality] @ Line NoiZe, Ferndale, U.S.A.
Jon Nailor -- yep. Barbaric, isn't it? And the worst parts aren't the *written* laws, etc. The worst are all those carved-in-stone, unwritten, societal expectations. Bleah.
#173386 50 Tue Oct 18 20:19:07 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
do you know when some of those laws date to? or what they are? I guess they finally repealed the law forbidding women to wear skirts that had hemlines above their ankles, just a few years ago...
#173905 50 Wed Oct 19 23:31:47 1994 Blain Nelson @ Blain's World (not!) BBS, Ferndale, USA/WA/WHATCOM
The societal expectations do need some review. Like the ones that say that men have to be completely autonomous and able to handle whatever problems arrive and fix them. And the ones that say that women have to be supportive of their husbands and that their identity is dependent upon their husbands. And that people have to be perfect unless they are you or a personal friend and then what they do isn't really wrong because they're just good folks. Those, among others, could use a little work.
#174216 50 Thu Oct 20 17:21:58 1994 [if it was so, it might be] LA REINE [and if it were so, it would be] @ Dystopia ][, Bellingham, US/WA/Whatcom
but i am perfect. didn't you get the memo?
#174360 50 Thu Oct 20 23:36:48 1994 Blain Nelson @ Blain's World (not!) BBS, Ferndale, USA/WA/WHATCOM
Ah. So you're still in denial I see.
#176698 50 Sun Oct 23 18:45:28 1994 [I am here,] Jon Nailor [But only in body.] @ The Dream Realm, State of Looserville, US
Blian- Agreed, But there are far too many useless and down right low laws on the books. Most of them could be viewed as Harassment. Like you missed calulated you're taxes by 1 dollar. Do you know that the IRS can come after you 10 years later and take you to court for $1500+. And they will win if you do not know how to prove they are illegally harassing you.
#176697 50 Mon Oct 24 22:21:57 1994 [No More Words] ZooKeeper [No More Promises...] @ The Zoo, Bellingham, USA/WA/WHATCOM
no she's not, she's perfect! :>
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