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#162 49 Thu Jan 3 02:12:35 1991 Captain James T Kirk
Anyone wanna slightly used tandy? Only 2000...
#195 49 Thu Jan 3 03:13:19 1991 [Not tonight...] Lightning [I've got a hernia...]
Pennies? Sure...
#217 49 Thu Jan 3 04:12:12 1991 Captain James T Kirk
dollars...
#311 49 Thu Jan 3 15:11:24 1991 Italian Stallion
pesos?
#635 49 Sat Jan 5 03:17:18 1991 [Poetry] Chris the Shaych [Is a subjective term.]
Poor thing. Well, here's the update. Forget the SNES and the 2nd Edition AD&D stuff. Add the following: Shadowrun: Sprawl Sites, Dragon Hunt, and Bottled Demon. Shadowrun adventures. $7 each (actual value unknown) All of the above (minus SNES and 2nd Edition AD&D) go on sale NOW. I will accept payment plans, and cash or cheques. All prices are negotialble. Interested parites may call at 438-3514 or 456-6660 if busy. I no longer need the money as desperatly, as one of Mercedes Lackey's co-authors is loaning me the money to go. Yippie!!
#10759 57 Wed Oct 16 08:39:31 1991 [I am the terror] Darkwing Duck [that flaps in the night!]
Well, Audin, it just showed you a major problem with your cit, I might have acutakky helped you in the long run.
#10706 57 Wed Oct 16 12:12:18 1991 [I am the terror] Darkwing Duck [that flaps in the night!]
What did I do that was that bad? Besides screwing with Audin's dir's?
#10715 57 Wed Oct 16 13:10:50 1991 [Life is....] Roya [Just plain there...]
Don't ask me!
#10751 57 Wed Oct 16 16:50:29 1991 [Life is...........] James T Kirk [Um, hmmmm.......]
Screwing with my dir's is enough. And i learned earler tonight, that one of your "screwings" crashed my board for about 3 hours a few nights ago. You had opened a dir room into the a: drive, an a: drive in which there wasen't a disk. So, when someone (chequtia) wen't into that room, it looked on a: and got an "Not Ready Read Error" from dos. in other words, freesing up my computer for a few hours.
#10792 57 Thu Oct 17 13:12:41 1991 [I am the terror] Darkwing Duck [that flaps in the night!]
Well, I don't care!
#10808 57 Thu Oct 17 19:14:08 1991 [Life is....] Roya [Just plain there...]
Neither do I!! (What are you talking about?)
#10854 57 Thu Oct 17 19:48:38 1991 [come on over...] Shane [SHOOT the SHIT]
I smell some TWITTING.
#10877 57 Thu Oct 17 20:14:30 1991 [Life is....] Roya [Just plain there...]
Ididn'tdoitnobodysawmedoityoucan'tproveanything...
#10764 57 Sun Oct 20 03:41:54 1991 [Life is...........] James T Kirk [Um, hmmmm.......]
HA! Thin is, it woulda never happened if you haden;'t be screwing.
#10916 57 Sun Oct 20 03:58:07 1991 [Life is good] Spur [when you're having sex...]
I saw Roya. She did it. What did she do?
#10978 57 Sun Oct 20 08:34:21 1991 [Life is...........] James T Kirk [Um, hmmmm.......]
I don't know... But Roya did it!
#10979 57 Sun Oct 20 08:34:51 1991 [Life is...........] James T Kirk [Um, hmmmm.......]
Roya, I'll bet you've got that album...
#11000 57 Sun Oct 20 14:48:42 1991 [Two wrongs..] Roya Naini [Make Neat-o.]
WHat album? WHat the HELL?
#11011 57 Sun Oct 20 15:18:25 1991 [Two wrongs make a] Spur [Roya!]
MI think he means, the Simpsons sing the Blues.
#11035 57 Mon Oct 21 03:40:41 1991 [Two wrongs..] Roya Naini [Make Neat-o.]
Oh..no..I don't have it...I wanted to get it though...but, it's just antoher way to attract attention to it....I'm allready a fan..I don't need that kinda stuff..I've allready got my magazine..
#11064 57 Mon Oct 21 08:19:57 1991 [Two wrongs make a] Spur [Roya!]
Your collection won't be complete withouth "the sipsons sing the blues"...
#11151 57 Tue Oct 22 13:20:03 1991 [Your mouth is filled with] Roya [an anarchy of teeth...]
They're coming out with some more CD's too....I don't think I'll get any of them....THe simpson's are a cartoon, not a band...
#11153 57 Tue Oct 22 13:22:26 1991 [Your mouth is filled with] Roya [an anarchy of teeth...]
OH SHOOT...EXCUSE ME...did I say "cartoon"? I MEANT show..I don't consider the Simpsons a cartoon..it's too good for that....Matt Groening says he as an Emmy or somehting in Cartoons for the Simpson's, but he puts it up WAY high on a shelf in his house, so people can't tell if its for cartooning, or for a regular show....
#11229 57 Tue Oct 22 17:47:52 1991 [What a stupid surname,] Spur [huh?]
Groenig is cool. He never read any medical journals inhis life.
#11252 57 Tue Oct 22 18:45:10 1991 [oh penis] Shane [if you will...]
do you know that for a FACT?
#11307 57 Tue Oct 22 20:57:56 1991 [What a stupid surname,] Spur [huh?]
Yes, I asked him.
#11343 57 Wed Oct 23 03:50:16 1991 [Your mouth is filled with] Roya [an anarchy of teeth...]
Spur...shut the heck up....The ONLY reason, that I had to read them, was for a Biology project...Maybe if you had even bothered to TAKE Biology, you would see....by the way, it also helps ilf youjust read the abstract, and not worry about getting into details with the rest of the article....JAMA is a good one with LOT"s of abstracts! Heh,heh...
#11382 57 Wed Oct 23 08:11:02 1991 [What a stupid surname,] Spur [huh?]
God, its easy to piss her off...
#11396 57 Wed Oct 23 09:16:58 1991 [Wow it's] bill [Who cares?]
How come these rooms have nothing to do with what's being talked about in them? How Come? w/ Al Wallace. Do you remember? He's dead now. Oh well.
#11434 57 Wed Oct 23 10:21:37 1991 [Your mouth is filled with] Roya [an anarchy of teeth...]
There all afraid of being TOPIC POLICE GEEKS...haven't I said that a million times before? why does everybody keep asking? Why am I doing this...why me? I hate you all....Neat-o geeks...wow.....Happy Spur? I am NOT P.O.'d.....Can't you tell when I'm joking? I guess it's funny to see people respond, after I've said a really mad-looking comment.....
#11450 57 Wed Oct 23 11:41:16 1991 [What a stupid surname,] Spur [huh?]
Oh god, just cause you never even leave the house...
#11465 57 Wed Oct 23 17:35:45 1991 [Your mouth is filled with] Roya [an anarchy of teeth...]
You are a geek....
#11482 57 Thu Oct 24 12:00:32 1991 [Jane says,] Spur ["I'm gonna quit tomorrow..."]
Eat yourself.
#11541 57 Thu Oct 24 17:10:40 1991 [What's wrong with him?] Shane [He's an exhaust baby..]
Impossible. I've tried.
#11565 57 Sun Oct 27 10:35:29 1991 [You'll be] Spur [Godlike]
No, you jut have to be particularly flexible. And being female helps too.
#11658 57 Sun Oct 27 18:52:03 1991 ["Hello, Winchell's Donuts..] Shane [May I help you?"]
well, they would have to reach further.
#11675 57 Sun Oct 27 19:02:47 1991 [You'll be] Spur [Godlike]
Flexible, like I said.
#359 49 Sat Jan 4 11:27:36 1992 [Not tonight...] Lightning [I've got a hernia...]
Rubles?
#393 49 Sat Jan 4 12:50:36 1992 Italian Stallion
they might be worth alot...as archeological finds.
#423 49 Sat Jan 4 13:42:39 1992 [Poetry] Chris the Shaych [Is a subjective term.]
For sale (maybe, depending on how desperate I get): One Super NES: Includes Super Mario World, Sim City, and Populous. Asking price: $200 ($325 value) Shadowrun things: Rule book, Paranormal Animals of North America, GM screen, Street Samurai Catalog. Asking price: $50 ($75 value) First Edition AD&D: Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, Monster Manual 1 and 2, Fiend Folio, and Unearthed Arcana. Asking price: $60 ($90 value) A slew of modules for AD&D: $3 each. Ask for titles Second Edition AD&D: Forgotten Realms: Basic Boxed set, Maztica Boxed set, Horde Boxed set. Asking price: $30 ($60 value) Greyhwak: Greyhawk Wars, and Greyhawk boxed set (no box). Asking price: $15 ($30 value) Spelljammer: Boxed set, 3 modules, and Practical Planettology (also a DM screen). Asking price: $30 ($60 value) Ravenloft: Boxed set, 3 modules, Book of Crypts and Darklords. Asking price $45 ($75 value) Supliments: Viking Handbook, Drow Handbook, Theif Handbook, Psionic Handbook. Asking price: $10 each ($15 value each) Back issues of Dragon (complete from 150-now, with some earlier issues as far back as #60). Asking price: $2 each (each worth at least $3.50) Star Trek Hologramme card, H1. Hologramme of TOS Enterprise. Asking price, $25 ($50 value) Warhammer 40,000 Terminater Squad figures. Some painted, most not, only one complete. Makes 8. Asking price: $5 (actual value unknown) Warhammer 40,000 Space Marines. Most painted and assembled. 36 imperial gaurd figures Asking price $7 (actual value unknown) All of the above will be avilable on 1-15-91, if I do not get the money that I need to get before then. I am trying to earn money to visit Mercedes Lackey and a rather beautiful co-author of hers in Feb. I NEED MONEY. If I am unable to earn what I need before 1-15-91, then most or all of the above will go on sale. Let me know what you are interested in, and I will make a list on a first come, first served basis. I want full payment, in cash or cheques. Thank you.
#529 49 Sat Jan 4 23:32:24 1992 Italian Stallion
When are you leaving?
#548 49 Sun Jan 5 00:32:33 1992 Spur
hmmm... maybe i could use the miniatures... what do you mean, one of the terminators is complete?
#562 49 Sun Jan 5 09:02:14 1992 [Poetry] Chris the Shaych [Is a subjective term.]
I leave on 2-14-92 (I made a error, it all goes on sale on 1-15-92, not 91), but I need to pay for my ticket before then. I mean one of the Terminators is completely assembled and painted.
#570 49 Sun Jan 5 09:38:29 1992 Captain James T Kirk
I have to have that star trek card... but,i don't wanna spend the money...
#675 49 Sun Jan 5 20:12:16 1992 bill
I'm going to be getting 2 286 systems in a few days.... If anyone is interested, send me some E-mail....
#687 49 Sun Jan 5 20:27:14 1992 [wank wank.] Spur [how do you feel about that?]
but all of the terminators have all the pieces and such?
#731 49 Mon Jan 6 09:05:38 1992 [Poetry] Chris the Shaych [Is a subjective term.]
Yes.
#789 49 Mon Jan 6 14:16:16 1992 Captain James T Kirk
Bill... How much do ya want for one? and what kinda stuff do thay have? Are thay used?
#895 49 Mon Jan 6 21:44:49 1992 bill
One of the boards I sold to the guy a few months back new. He is now upgrading to a 386SX-25 w/ 4meg. The other guy is doing the same but he's got a system I haven't seen yet. I also have a 40meg MFM drive with 16bit controller.
#987 49 Tue Jan 7 17:05:59 1992 Italian Stallion
Is that the kinda 40MEG HD that would work in a 386sx that currently uses a Seagate? (Same Size) I think I have an extra controller port (or whatever they're called)
#1100 49 Tue Jan 7 20:43:48 1992 [wank wank.] Spur [how do you feel about that?]
i'll give you three bucks then.
#1134 49 Wed Jan 8 09:21:40 1992 [I get to go to Oklahoma!!] Chris the Shaych [Yay!!]
$7
#1191 49 Wed Jan 8 14:58:06 1992 [everyday, everyday] Spur [i start to ooze.]
your previous price was 5. how are you gonna raise it? fuck you.
#1359 49 Thu Jan 9 09:52:17 1992 [Welcome to Borg Burger's] Chris the Shaych [Where your way is irrelevant.]
Never mind, I was thinking of something else. $5.
#1377 49 Thu Jan 9 12:25:47 1992 [everyday, everyday] Spur [i start to ooze.]
3.
#1411 49 Thu Jan 9 19:56:45 1992 Italian Stallion
Lookin' for cheap 2400 baud modem. BIll: What are yer prices? Am looking fer used one under $50 leave Message or Call 754-0316, ask for Todd.
#1462 49 Thu Jan 9 23:05:12 1992 bill
Ital> I don't like to mix the hard drives just because it's no fun sometimes to get them to work. This is MFM 40meg. I don't know if you have a RLL or IDE or SCSI....
#1480 49 Fri Jan 10 09:37:31 1992 [Welcome to Borg Burger's] Chris the Shaych [Where your way is irrelevant.]
$5. Take it or leave it.
#1573 49 Sat Jan 11 13:17:06 1992 Captain James T Kirk
I knew SOMEONE would make a comment like that...
#731 49 Sat Jan 18 09:55:50 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Carol Mann, try locating the local STEELCASE (brand) office furniture dealer. thats real good stuff.
#732 49 Sun Jan 19 06:35:55 1992 [V'Ger SYSOP] Malcolm Petcher @ The Lost Island, Dallas
LaD, you can't beat a new 40 meg IDE, $200 or less. Best you'll do on the used market is an ST225 or 238 for $50-$75, and if it's not noisy it'll get that way.
#733 49 Sun Jan 19 17:12:40 1992 chris masters @ V'ger, Allen
Carol, techline available @ Eurway furniture at Alpha & Dallas tollway is modular, and very attractive.
#735 49 Sun Jan 19 17:27:04 1992 [Chucks' Folly SysOp] Chuck Knight @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Carol...try the Children's Benefit Store... It's on Central, but they're having a warehouse sale over on Inwood at the moment. They usually have the modular work stations for sale, and they're the heavy duty, really nice ones you'll find in open air offices...
#734 49 Sun Jan 19 23:44:04 1992 [Ed Howdershelt] Runestone Cowboy @ Rainbow's End, Dallas
The following are for sale or trade: ------------------------------------ BOCARAM-AT ram card, up to 4 megs, $50 uses 256k or 64k SIPP chips, box, book, disk included. > RLL controller card WD1002A-27X, $20 > MFM controller card WD1003-WAH, $20 > PCTOOLS 7.1, unused, 3.5" disks, box, books, etc... $45 > DESQview (uses windowing) $20 manual included > Manual for CP/M-86 (IBM's CP/M) $05 (Someone was looking for this) Ed Howdershelt, (904) 688-1469
#739 49 Mon Jan 20 12:36:56 1992 [Help Stamp Out] Don't Ask [Rampant Vegetables] @ Who Am I, Nashville
For sale: 1929 RCA/Victor Portable Phonograph. VERY rare, great condition. Needs stylus replacement, hums a little, but a solid piece of work!
#740 49 Mon Jan 20 12:37:09 1992 [Help Stamp Out] Don't Ask [Rampant Vegetables] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Oh, yes, make an offer.
#736 49 Mon Jan 20 13:11:37 1992 [Some things never die!] ROBERT MARTIN [Most just smell like they did!] @ V'ger, Allen
Malcolm: Here,here! I had an old ST250R(I know ancient) 40meg that went from pretty quiet to HEY I AM HERE AND WORKING pretty quick.
#737 49 Mon Jan 20 18:04:40 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
ST251's are the worst in the world. Seem like a good deal at first, but what you get is three platters driven by the same motor and head actuator as the two platter ST225/238 (same mechanics.) It's just a race as to whether you get the freight train sound or stiction first. Even a 238 outlasts a 251. These IDE's are probably too new for me to declare them wonderful, not enough history yet, but with the light bearing load and short actuator throw, I expect them to be really reliable drives. Time will tell.
#738 49 Tue Jan 21 06:33:13 1992 [U.S.S. Inverness] Jonathan McGirr [(214) 245 - 9315] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
I would say how long I have had my 251 working, but it would probably crater when I did. So I won't.
#717 49 Tue Jan 21 19:19:31 1992 [All good people] LaDzhaRi [are asleep and dreaming] @ Cyberlink, Olympia, WA
Okay, Im really getting seroius about selling my machine here, I still have to get a battery and a mono VGA monitor, BUT: 12Mhz 286 w/1 meg ram 2 360K 5.25" drives IO board, 2 ser 1 par 1 game 130meg IDE 16ms ST1144A 3.5" HD 8-slots blah blah blah decent keyboard 101-key I beleive normal AT case. mono VGA monitor VGA card lots of software on the HD maybe 2400 baud Supra external modem How much is all of this worth? It's been running Cyberlink for ove r a year so it's reliable enough.. And yes, it would all be put together nicely and neatly.
#741 49 Tue Jan 21 20:47:59 1992 John Murphy @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Does anyone have a need for any Zerox 3700 laser printers, or parts,HuuuuuuH? Wellllll, what about Autologics Stuff? :-}
#743 49 Wed Jan 22 05:27:40 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
hard to say without seeing the phono, Don't Ask. is it worth $100?
#744 49 Wed Jan 22 05:30:00 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
for sale: 1970 Buick Skylark. CLASSIC MUSCLECAR. 455 engine. needs battery. $1100. good body and interior, floor shift turbo 400, original hub caps. I have too many cars.
#742 49 Wed Jan 22 06:29:03 1992 David Taylor @ The Lost Island, Dallas
MUSICAL INSTRUMENT GEAR FOR SALE: 1974 Gibson ES-335 electric thinline hollow body guitar, cherry red, good condition --- $850 w/hardshell case. 2 ea mid-1950's 12" Jensen "Alneco-5" speakers from old Fender Twin. Recently re-coned, highly desirable, hard to find blues guitar speakers. $100 for one, $150 for the set. Please do not post replies here. Call (214) 343-0520.
#718 49 Wed Jan 22 13:40:19 1992 [I happen to like] Nicodemus [Depeche Mode] @ Cyberlink, Olympia, WA
Could we have the "it will be put together nice and neat" part in writting?
#723 49 Wed Jan 22 18:54:14 1992 [All good people] LaDzhaRi [are asleep and dreaming] @ Cyberlink, Olympia, WA
Last chance! I have someone who's interested in it.
#719 49 Wed Jan 22 19:02:40 1992 [I like] Captain James T Kirk [Trisha...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Hahahahaha....
#720 49 Wed Jan 22 21:19:32 1992 [Where plastic cobwebs taste] stderr [like silk....] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
So what do you all think a Tandy 1000TL3 is worth: 286-10 CGA color 40meg 3.5" 720k 5.25" 360k dot matrix printer Some slime ball in the Rat Shack sold this setup to a disabled women about six months ago at $1771. She paid about $59 per month and still owes about $1720. (She's paying about 18 percent interest) Now they claim it's worth $1300. Any guesses on what they've been smokin'?
#721 49 Wed Jan 22 21:44:28 1992 [I like] Captain James T Kirk [Trisha...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
God, rip off... IT's tandy 16 color graphics... BTW... (not much better... but, with the right software, it's EGA..)
#722 49 Thu Jan 23 01:14:55 1992 [Where plastic cobwebs taste] stderr [like silk....] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Anyone care to take a guess and what she could get for that Tandy?
#724 49 Thu Jan 23 07:19:03 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Lucas, I could sure use it. Do you have a price in mind? stderr> That should be considered stealing. At the very least it's mis-representing a product. I'd expect she could get $500 for it with a lot of advertising and a lot of work to find a person who uses Tandy. Otherwise, maybe $400 on the open market. I'd offer around $300 for it depending on the printer. Can she give it back?
#725 49 Thu Jan 23 13:14:48 1992 [I happen to like] Nicodemus [Depeche Mode] @ Cyberlink, Olympia, WA
I'd say probably about $500 if she's lucky. I didn't Rat Shack was that low. gezzz.
#747 49 Thu Jan 23 21:10:04 1992 [Papa John's] Jon Lusky [Delivers the Perfect Pizza] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Wanted: parts for first generation Mazda Rx-7: 1982 distributor, 1985 GSL-SE limited slip rear diff and disc brakes, 85 GSL-SE wheels, aftermarket shocks, springs and swaybars, 12A street header, 12A Weber, Mikuni, or Dellorto intake with carb and linkage, 79-80 console & ashtray, aftermarket high back racing seat for use with 5 point harness, a five point harness, and a roll cage.
#727 49 Fri Jan 24 00:20:35 1992 [Help save our country] stderr [DON'T buy government bonds!] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
That price was suppose to be a sale. So everyone thinks from $300-500? I told her $700, but I was trying to be nice.
#728 49 Fri Jan 24 21:01:05 1992 [s] Dr. Technical [doc] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Sad to say, it's not worth any $700.00. When will they ever learn?
#745 49 Fri Jan 24 22:31:17 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
For Sale: The Major BBS by Galacticomm. A dual node/two line bbs program. This is a business bbs program ideal for charging users for on-line time. It can be upgraded to 65 users on line (all at the same time) several games and utilities can be added for additional fees from the program author or vendors. The program comes complete with manual, disk, and vendor information of games and utilities. Asking $35.00 obo.
#746 49 Sat Jan 25 05:59:50 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
500 would be a little high... 350 to 400 would probably go, though.
#749 49 Sat Jan 25 08:05:41 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
A few months ago I sold a 10 MHz 286 machine with 1 meg memory, 40 meg hard drive, 5.25" and 3.5" drives, and a CGA for $600. Had a printer been included I probably could have gotten $750 or better. If that Tandy machine is 100% IBM compatible, I'd say $700 is not completely out of line. However, that only counts for a customer who wants a turnkey system. People who don't mind shopping around and buying pieces at various places could put together a '386SX system with all that same stuff plus VGA for the same or little more.
#748 49 Sat Jan 25 20:20:10 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Looks like someone is fixing to do a little racing.... or gonna storm the Federal Reserve! ;-)
#750 49 Sun Jan 26 00:02:37 1992 Bruce @ Greenspace, Seattle
I agree, Radio Shack slime balls. She should take it back, saying she can nolonger meet the monthly payments and see what value they would give it, and maybe this way she could cut her losses. Even if Rat Shack deducted $400 for its use, it still might be a better deal.
#752 49 Sun Jan 26 07:05:58 1992 [The SYSOP] Dennis Recla @ The Lost Island, Dallas
For Sale Zenith 180 LapTop Computer Turbo-XT w/640K memory, 1meg EMM4.0 or use as Ramdisk, 8087 math chip, 3 1/2" micro floppy, 20 meg HD, internal 2400 baud modem. Backlit LCD twist screen, DOS 3.3 and 4.01. Includes spare battery pack, soft case, external 5 1/4" disk drive and all documentation..... All.. $425.00 For Sale AT-286-12 w/2 meg of memory, parallel, 2-serial, mouse, 101 keyboard, DOS 5.0, Desktop case w/200W power supply, 1.2 and 1.44 meg floppys, 40 meg hard disk, works great... Includes NEC P6 24 pin printer with a 1 1/2 box of paper, and a sack full of ribbons, and re-inker unit. Will throw in a Everex 1200 baud internal modem.. Everything for $825.00... Complete starter kit for home or student... trades considered... prices nego.... Dennis
#753 49 Sun Jan 26 12:30:28 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Dennis, what kind of monitor on the 286?
#756 49 Sun Jan 26 15:54:59 1992 Dernhelm @ Who Am I, Nashville
Let Rat Shack repo it and then it is there problem getting rid of a used system. With the money she saves on 18% interest she can probably get a real system. (I'd buy direct from big blue before I'd take a Tandy as a gift. (And I am a die hard Apple ][ user.))
#754 49 Sun Jan 26 21:40:08 1992 David M. Frazer @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Maria's Video Productions "The Lady With The Camera" Specializing in Photo to Video conversion available for *weddings *quinces * birthday parties *anniversaries *reunions *depositions *special events 214-293-0982 any time. Leave message
#751 49 Sun Jan 26 21:43:20 1992 Bruce Wade @ TurboTech, Seattle
I'm with Bruce. Take the Tandy back, and default on the payments. These days $1700 buys a hell of a machine, not some proprietry piece of s#@t
#755 49 Sun Jan 26 22:42:12 1992 Chuck Knight @ V'ger, Allen
STDERR> Have her advertise in the paper, to sell that computer. She'll get more for it, that way...someone will see Tandy, think name brand (since it is!!), and buy it for his kid to learn on. It is, after all, a halfway decent system to start with. Even if it was ridiculously overpriced...
#729 49 Sun Jan 26 23:16:51 1992 [Help save our country] stderr [DON'T buy government bonds!] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
The people or Tandy?
#758 49 Mon Jan 27 05:07:15 1992 [The SYSOP] Dennis Recla @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Ron, the monitor is a Magnavox Professional VGA Color Monitor (that's what is says on the front) probably .31 pitch. Works fine...
#757 49 Mon Jan 27 06:35:13 1992 [U.S.S. Inverness] Jonathan McGirr [(214) 245 - 9315] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Chuck: Most people are not going to buy something from the newspaper without asking someone who knows about what they are buying. Radio Shaft has a history of Ly'in to the customers. Call the credit bureau for Radio Shack, explain that you can no longer make the payments, and tell them to pick up the machine. Then, Stderr, help her find a REAL machine, and if you can't, I would be more than happy to look around for her as well. And I imagine there are several others on this board who feel the same.
#730 49 Mon Jan 27 06:53:27 1992 Captain James T Kirk @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
well, the Tandy people arn't worth 700 eather...
#759 49 Mon Jan 27 11:25:39 1992 [5th Dimension SYSOP] Maher @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Jon, still trying to build that rx-7 into something eh? :-) Speaking of things for sale, I had a <real> Ferrari F-40 pull into the station last week. This guys other car is a Cobra 427 (again, not a replica). Oh yes, neither is for sale, but just had to tell someone about it :-)
#764 49 Mon Jan 27 14:59:04 1992 [When in doubt,] Don't Ask [for fruitcake.] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Joe Carrasquilo: I might be interested in your Major BBS package for a friend of mine.... leave me email on the net...
#762 49 Mon Jan 27 18:53:42 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
No, you can't just default on payments without ruining your credit, and you don't call the credit bureau about such problems - they just keep records, they're not responsible for the actual debts or collateral. If she can substantiate that she got rooked, she might be able to take it to small claims court. That's unlikely, though. If she agreed on the price of the machine and the installment terms, and if the machine functions as it was represented to function, there are no grounds for a suit. The fact that the system was overpriced, and the fact that typical pricing for similar systems has been reduced even more in ensuing months, are both completely immaterial. When you sign on the dotted line you make a commitment. You can't just go cry to somebody later and get the whole thing eliminated.
#760 49 Mon Jan 27 19:47:59 1992 Greg Hanson @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Maher, a REAL Cobra? What color was it? I remember a girlfriend's father that had one. He only took it out of the garage to handwash and drive around the block at about 90 mph. Then back into the garage. What a car! BTW, it was candy-apple red.
#765 49 Mon Jan 27 21:18:21 1992 [Papa John's] Jon Lusky [Delivers the Perfect Pizza] @ Who Am I, Nashville
WANTED: 15x6 stamped aluminum race wheels (non-DOT approved) with bolt pattern and offset to fit early Rx-7. Please drop me a noteif you know of a place that sells anything like this. FOR SALE: All internal engine parts for 79 model 12A engine. All parts except front cover are out of specs. Rotors would makenice clocks or bookends. Rotor housings would go nice on fire place mantle. Eccentric shaft is suitable for use as a small boat anchor. Make me an offer. (no, I didn't do this damage myself... the engine happened to be in the body I bought for $100).
#761 49 Tue Jan 28 01:04:20 1992 Ed Money @ TurboTech, Seattle
I got a 486-33, 105 meg IDE HD, 1.2 meg FDD, SVGA monitor, 1024x768x256 16 bit SVGA card w/1 meg VRAM, and 1 meg RAM, full tower case, 101key klick KB, 64k cache for $1976.81. Plus I added in some other stuff I happend to have. But a 386-33 with the same should be about $1300-$1500 if you know the right places to go.
#763 49 Tue Jan 28 13:18:24 1992 [U.S.S. Inverness] Jonathan McGirr [(214) 245 - 9315] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Has it been over 90 days??? And Malcolm: I agree about the credit, but the poor lady says she wants out of it. Didn't say she wanted out of it clean... :}
#766 49 Tue Jan 28 19:30:23 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
I think you guys are giving her the wrong advice. Pay for the darn thing, try to sell it for as much as possible and with the money, either pay it off completely or buy a comprably priced but better system. Being tagged with bad credit can not do the Lady any good what-so-ever. She needs to maintain a good, clear credit ratings. I think she would be wiser to both pay and admit to a learned lesson for future reference. (shame on you guys!)
#767 49 Wed Jan 29 08:51:31 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
Don't Ask, leave me a number and I'll call you from Seattle at a time of your choosing. I don't have "Who Am I, Nashville" on my route.cit. Who're you routed through?
#776 49 Wed Jan 29 14:45:01 1992 ROBERT MARTIN [Most just smell like they did!] @ V'ger, Allen
For those of you who talk Cobras. Shelby still owns a business in McKinney,Tx. (chili factory actually now,the hubcap and metal business went down the tubes I think) and displays his collection on a regular basis at the chili place sometimes... Oh yeah,Shelby as in Shelby Cobra...
#770 49 Thu Jan 30 12:17:21 1992 Dare @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
Used 85-key keyboards for just $5.00 +shipping. Packard Bell, Tandy 1000, IBM, and MaxiSwitch. All tested, all good for AT and 100% compatibles.
#777 49 Thu Jan 30 14:06:27 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
1700 is alot for a tandy, when I can get a real nice 386-33 with super vga, 100 megs, 2 floppys, ports, 2 megs ram for 1391.
#774 49 Thu Jan 30 17:10:20 1992 [You can't hug a -] Teddy Bear [- with Nuclear Arms] @ Rainbow's End, Dallas
Well as for the MAJORBBS by GALICTICOMM, it is a great package. I am runing the FILE TRANSFER EDITION at this time and started out with the STANDARD EDITION. If you buy a copy from an individual, be sure to get all the docs and to notify Galaticomm of your purchase. If you buy from them direct, you will get their newsletters, upgrades, factroy support bullitens, ect.. I don't know what their policy for support on resold versions of the software.
#778 49 Thu Jan 30 19:12:37 1992 [Papa John's] Jon Lusky [Delivers the Perfect Pizza] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Yeah, maher... bought it with a bad engine, bad trans, and good body and glass for $150. Bought a used 82 engine for $600, bought a used Racing Beat Holley 4bbl kit for $300, am having the broken shift fork replaced in the tranny for $80 (should be ready tomorrow), sent off $415 to Racing Beat yesterday for header, presilencer, and muffler. Next paycheck goes for a clutch disk and pressure plate. Next four paychecks after that go for Eibach springs and some brand of shocks. Next two paychecks (glad i get paid weekly) go for Suspension Techniques sway bars. After that I'll get some wheels and tires. In the mean time tips will pay for odd and ends like axle bearings, brake pad & shoes (oem type.. will go to race if I have problems later), street tires, etc... Hard to believe I've spent almost $2000 already on something I've only driven 7/10 of a mile!
#780 49 Fri Jan 31 01:30:36 1992 Chuck Thompson @ The Lost Island, Dallas
You know, Malcolm, I bet all those nice people who are recommending that the lady dump on Radio Shack by reneging on her agreement are the same type of people who tell lawyer jokes and make comments about their integrity. Seems to me that the advice is not only dishonest, it's potentially harmful since Radio Shack (should they choose to do so) could report the default to the credit bureau and .... there goes her credit. It's amazing to me how fundamentally dishonest some people are -- I suppose they think that since it's a "big corporation" it's OK to lie, cheat, and/or steal, but to me, a liar/cheater/thief is a liar/cheater/thier regardless of who's the victim. Making a new deal with Radio Shack (say a trade-in or merely asking them to take it back and make allowances on the amount due) is certainly OK -- I'm not suggesting that the lady ought not go back to RS and ask for assistance. It's certainly possible that they'd help out.... at least, that would be honest, something some folks apparently tend to think isn't important. Cheers................................ c h u c k
#779 49 Fri Jan 31 02:43:28 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Joe, Who Am I (WAI) routes through Mystic Frenzy (MF)...
#781 49 Fri Jan 31 13:17:38 1992 [U.S.S. Inverness] Jonathan McGirr [(214) 245 - 9315] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Chuck Thompson: Everyone here is disgusted because Radio Shack lied to the lady in the first place, but I guess it is okay for a big corpoaration to lie to a lady.... (Liar/Cheater/Thief as you stated before?) As for dumping on RS, you are right, maybe it isn't right to default on the payments. Credit is important. But tell me chuck, who do you work for?
#787 49 Fri Jan 31 13:48:47 1992 [When in doubt,] Don't Ask [for fruitcake.] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Joe Carr.: I'm routed through Mystic Frenzy (MF)...
#771 49 Fri Jan 31 13:51:52 1992 [Nothing But] Twoflower @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
Wanted: Various Volvo 122 coupe parts. Interior light assembly and fronts seats w/headrests are first priority.
#772 49 Fri Jan 31 13:52:07 1992 [Nothing But] Twoflower @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
(front seats, anyway. :)
#768 49 Fri Jan 31 14:04:17 1992 [Help save our country] stderr [DON'T buy government bonds!] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
About the Tandy computer mess....: She claims she doesn't have the money to pay for it. She can't even pay the interest right now. (She said she even had a friend pay her electric bill this month) If she can only get $400-600 for the thing, she'll still owe at least $1100. I think she pretty much has to let them take it back although they say they won't let her off any of the money owned. Clearly there's no chance she'll be getting a good system in the near term. This is too bad because it sounds like she wanted to learn CAD and other design related work. (The Tandy salesman said the system would work with AutoCAD. Even ignoring the fact that 286-10 and AutoCAD is a joke, it would HAVE to have a co-processor to work that way. I wonder if it does....) Maybe we could all call up Tandy and complain for her.....
#788 49 Fri Jan 31 15:57:22 1992 Dernhelm @ Who Am I, Nashville
There is no reason that the lady should be forced to pay through the nose for a bad computer if she can return it and have her credit record intact.
#782 49 Fri Jan 31 17:16:08 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
Bear: What is the name of your MajorBBS system?
#773 49 Fri Jan 31 18:21:35 1992 San San @ PhotoSynthesis, Seattle, US WA 206 323 2433
Twoflower, check out a place called Oddvars. He's a mechanic who has a great shop in Ballard. Here's the number: 784-8292. They might be able to help you with some of that stuff and if not they will probably be able to tell you where to find it.
#775 49 Fri Jan 31 19:50:39 1992 Bruce Wade @ TurboTech, Seattle
Dare, leave me E-mail with your number and address info.
#769 49 Fri Jan 31 23:38:49 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
stderr> Post the numbers of both the store that sold the Tandy and Tandy's corporate office. We'll call. If possible also tell us the woman's name and other details.
#783 49 Sat Feb 1 00:17:53 1992 [from Garland, Texas...] Bolan Meek [, your servant] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
uh, Jonathan, how did RS lie to this lady? They do have the right to get whatever the market will bear for their products, same as you and me. This gal shouldn't default, but try to make the best of the situation. The main thing is not that it might ruin her credit rating, but that it would be wrong. Of course, doing wrong things have consequences. Though RS had the intrinxic right to price their offerings to what ever they think they can get, if they make a mistake and overprice, the consequence is that people who do their research will not buy from them. On the other hand, if they do (and they do), it is not a moral wrong, but it still brings bad consequences. She may not be able to sell it for $1700, or what ever she paid for it, but if it doesn't serve her needs, she could sell if for whatever she could get, and take the loss and chalk it up to experience.
#784 49 Sat Feb 1 08:37:05 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
There are numerous expressions that apply to the situation. "Caveat emptor." "A fool and his money are soon parted." People who don't know much about computers are usually going to pay more when they buy one. I have sold more than one computer to people to whom I had communicated that they could get a lot more machine if they would just go to IMS, ADAM, or any of several other places and tell the folks there what they want. Problem is, these people didn't know what they want, and were willing to pay the same money for a lessor machine as long as I told them what they want. Tandy does the same thing, except for much huger profits. People who are absolutely terrified to walk into a computer store will march right into a store full of stuffed animals with radios in them. I'm the other way around. I'll pay extra money for stereo equipment as long as the salesman doesn't hit me. I see all those knobs, buttons, and connectors, and I turn into a babe in the woods. Tandy's worst failing, though, is the use of completely uninformed salespeople. They can no more explain impedance to an audiophobe than they can explain RLL to a computerphobe. When people tell me they're interested in a computer I generally tell them what (if anything) I could put together from parts I have, and tell them to go to IMS to see what the alternatives are. Most of the folks at IMS know what they're doing.
#786 49 Sat Feb 1 08:38:46 1992 Greg Hanson @ The Lost Island, Dallas
I'm sure that God has a special place in heaven for Shelby. (probably in that great pitstop in the sky)
#807 49 Sat Feb 1 09:22:41 1992 [I want my fucking ] Fo Ming at Mouth [back in my name ]] @ The Bilge, South Seattle Hell, US/WA/206-760-9861
idea for the overpriced tandy situation... since if it fails to perform as it should, let's make it not perform as it should. first, let's test out how well tandy's power supply can handle a short circuit. overload protection worked?? ok, let's see how much faster the 5 volt logic works at 12 volts. worked?? well, let's try 24 volts. aha, smoke... take it back to tandy, tell them it blew up while you were using it, and see what they do. putting a little thought into it, it would be very difficult for them to tell that the machine was "worked on..." and when you take it back, and they look at it, tell them you have decided you don't trust tandy machines and that you would like your money back. if they replace it, do something else to it. and keep the cycle going. if they keep you going 4 rounds, tell them you want out of the deal because the machine has been in the shop way too long, and you cannot be left without a computer to pursue your important tasks. tech them to take an innocent person to the cleaners... damn bastards...
#785 49 Sat Feb 1 13:05:02 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
I have been doing the same thing, Malcolm. You can definitely build one yourself a lot cheaper and in just about an hour or two if you know where and how everything goes.
#789 49 Sat Feb 1 16:07:12 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
Cave Bear doesn't run the MajorBBS anymore, he switched over to TurboCit. Thanks for the info Ron House! For route purposes, it's called "Cave Bear's Laire" Kent, WA (206)630-9863. Sorry folks, I'm not advertising, just trying to clear things up.
#798 49 Sat Feb 1 16:55:20 1992 Jim Wells @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Chuck is self-employed and knows what he talks about, unlike others who shall remain nameless. Caveat Emptor is a key concept of our economy and perhaps the reason why Tandy has never made the big time in computing or in electronics is because of their sales tactics and their noted lack of support. But no one held a gun to her head and robbed her. She's a responsible adult and she made a crappy decision and yup, perhaps Tandy was unethical. But to suggest that she should default and expose herself to their attornies and collection agencies doesn't seem to me to be very good advice. If it was me, I'd pay, sell for as much as possible and call all the local TV stations, papers, etc. to spread the stroy of the "ripoff" and also write to the President of Tandy. I suspect he'd like to know about the circumstances of her case and migt even help her out... Rgds...Jim
#790 49 Sun Feb 2 01:49:27 1992 Chad Tutcher @ TurboTech, Seattle
If the lady cares to hassle RS (and she certainly has MY best wishes) she can offer to sue them in small claims (for damages) make them refund her money, etc, on the basis of misrepresentation. On the CAD stuff. They'll buckle as soon she sends the summons thing, I'll wager. They can't afford to have hassles like this. They can't even use an attorney (at least in this state) which means that some management type is going to have to show up and look stupid in front of the judge. She will have brought an expert witness with some kind of verifiable credentials, like owner of a computer store or a consultant, they will not wish to appear like scum taking advantage of a poor, disabled, etc etc.
#799 49 Sun Feb 2 07:37:59 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
Ron, that was true for a long time, but nowadays, if you know what to specify, you can buy anything from a '286 machine to a '486-33 for the same or less than you can buy all the pieces. I think the reason is the people at the smaller computer stores are just as knowledgable as we are, and would rather spend an hour putting together a machine than spend an hour ringing up dozens of pieces. I still like putting together my own machines, though, especially if it's for somebody else. That way I know exactly what's in there and how it works, so I can answer questions. Also, of course, about every machine I've built recently has been a combination of parts I had lying around and newly purchased stuff. Out of six up and running machines only two were purchased as whole working units, and I've been into both of them. My daughter's XT is as purchased, except I added a no slot clock and VGA. V'ger's '386 machine is as purchased except I replaced the 40 meg drive with a 211 megger. The others (my '386 tower, two '286 machines, and an XT that lives on the floor) don't have a part among them that I haven't held on my hot little hands. There's something about putting together a machine that sort of kicks in the adrenalin and gives me a techie high. People who run or work out talk about endorphines (sp?) There must be a similar brain chemical that applies to people who put together computers. It's drudgery at first, then I sort of get on a roll. Switches get switched, jumpers get changed, tiny little manuals get scanned for any text that's still readable, and voila: there is born a new computer, or a new incarnation of an old computer. Then, if the drive isn't an IDE, comes the Horror: LOW LEVEL FORMAT THE HARD DRIVE. This usually takes about 17 tries using 7 different utilities, more if the thing was ever formatted before. Yesterday I replaced my son's ST238 with a Miniscribe 3053. Not enough hardware work to really get the chemicals flowing, and then it was time to do the "F" thing. The AMI built-in LLF kept croaking on cylinder 839. Speedstore starts at the high end, hiccuped when it encountered cylinder 839, but kept going. A few more runs with SS and it finally ran all the way through with no hiccups. Re-ran the built-in and it did the whole disk fine. This only took four hours. Stay tuned to next week's episode of "Watch Mister Computer Wizard" when we explore the advanced art of manual losing and calculate how many possible combinations of settings the switches on an XT motherboard can have.
#800 49 Sun Feb 2 16:52:54 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Well, I still think you can save a little, but you are probably rigth, the savings today wouldn't be near as substantial as it was in the past. But as for me, I would rather build MY own as I did, because I want to know what is in it, how it got there, and that way I will have a better idea of what to look at if something flakes. PLUS... I like to tinker. ;-)
#801 49 Sun Feb 2 18:10:28 1992 wayne a. willingham @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
I've found that anytime you're dealing with a large company like Tandy, the first thing to do is write a letter to the president. A president's letter usually will get some kind of response. She can explain that the salesman misled her, that she has learned how overpriced RS computers are, and that she won't even buy a AA battery from them in the future if she doesn't get some satisfaction. Only then can she take any other action. I've informed creditors that payments will be held in an escrow account until disputes are settled - talk to your bank or attorney about that.
#791 49 Sun Feb 2 20:53:59 1992 [Nothing But] Twoflower @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
San San: Cool. I called All Volvo, Auroura Auto Wrecking, and Gerry's in Woodenville. Got the run around from all three. "No, sorry, we don't have those parts. Why don't you try..." :) There is one place out on highway 99 just under Queen Anne that specializes in old Volvos. And a place up in Lake City. Maybe next Saturday I should just start cruising all of these places...:)
#802 49 Mon Feb 3 05:03:46 1992 [The SYSOP] Dennis Recla @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Or... If you want to build your own, and don't know how!! Attend the FUN ED Class on how to Upgrade or Build your own PC. First Class is in April, so you have plenty of time to start saving the $49 for tuition. (or maybe it's only $29.... but it is a 6 hour class)
#803 49 Mon Feb 3 11:25:56 1992 David Taylor @ The Lost Island, Dallas
FOR SALE: GIBSON HOLLOW BODY ELECTRIC GUITAR Model ES-335 Price reduced to $700. Call (214) 343-0520 (please do not post responses here)
#804 49 Mon Feb 3 13:58:18 1992 [U.S.S. Inverness] Jonathan McGirr [(214) 245 - 9315] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Bolan Meek: did you ever get StarFight, or have you given up on that? Jim Wells: (did I spell that right?) I know who Chuck is. Two people can disagree, you know....just ask Malcolm (Jab, Jab). As for being self-employed, that means one of two things: No one will hire you, or you haven't gone broke yet. I owned a computer store for 2 years. I left it because I wanted to pursue other things. I now run a programming business on the side and try to help people put machines together AFFORDABLY. All others: Okay, the lady and RS have a problem. They'll have to fix it. Enought with the arguments. Anybody looking for a Trombone or Oboe?
#809 49 Mon Feb 3 14:02:38 1992 [The SysOp] Tracy Harton [La Salamandre] @ Salamandria, Dallas
Yea, one of the best reasons to build your own system is that you know exactly what's in it, and often have the doc sheets for all the jumpers (or already know what they all are).. Nothing like getting some noname card with 56 jumpers and NO docs... ;-)
#805 49 Mon Feb 3 14:25:59 1992 [from Garland, Texas...] Bolan Meek [, your servant] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Jonathan, Bryan Parker has uploaded StarFight to Salamandria. I haven't been able to download it yet. Feel free to beat me to it; leave me a note if you do. I have to implement XMODEM before I can...
#806 49 Mon Feb 3 18:08:16 1992 [Rick] Richard Seitz @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
I have been sitting and reading the saga of RS and the computer mess and until now haven't commented. My question is, why does she need this computer anyway if she can't afford to pay the electric bill? If needed for work I guess it is a necessity but then it should be deductible as a business write-off. Maybe I am not correct on this though as I still don't understand the IRS feelings on computers as a business expense. (and it doesn't apply to me anyway) And the talk about it not being "right" to default on the loan.......defaults happen every day. Just look at the number of houses reposessed and offered by HUD. If she is in such a tight money situation, why should she go further in debt just to pay off something that ain't worth crap. Defaulting is not the end of the world but continuing to dump her money down that bottomless pit may lead to much worse things like eviction or having her utilities turned off etc. My point is, maybe it ain't right to default but the alternative could get very grim. Anyway good luck to her. :)
#810 49 Tue Feb 4 05:57:13 1992 [U.S.S. Inverness] Jonathan McGirr [(214) 245 - 9315] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
You've seen my video board, haven't you Tracy!!!!
#821 49 Tue Feb 4 07:38:27 1992 [LIVING STEELE] Chang Yoon [IS FREE AT LAST] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Geez... Can you believe about a year or so ago, I tried to get a job with Radio Shack (YES -- I was desperate.). Now I've got a real job (Regional Manager of a Computer Company - Dealing in hardware/software/consulting/programming). I think the reasoning behind radio shack not hiring me was that I was over qualified. I actually _NEW_ what I was doing.. sheesh.
#822 49 Tue Feb 4 07:39:53 1992 [LIVING STEELE] Chang Yoon [IS FREE AT LAST] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Looking for Sliderules, Oscilloscope, Probes, etc. If you have 'em, leave me some private mail. (I don't always read this room)
#811 49 Tue Feb 4 11:26:35 1992 [You can't hug a -] Teddy Bear [- with Nuclear Arms] @ Rainbow's End, Dallas
-> Brayn Parker <- The name of my MajorBBS system is THE BARE FACTS-II and it has 2 METRO lines. The number is 817-429-2667 300/1200/2400 8N1 so give it a call and check it out. Mention your I.D. from here for faster upgrade. .s
#813 49 Tue Feb 4 14:58:16 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Here here...
#808 49 Tue Feb 4 15:00:55 1992 [America's #1 asshole] Fo Ming at Mouth [and fucking proud of it, man..] @ The Bilge, South Seattle Hell, US/WA/206-760-9861
personally i don't like the practices of radio shack personnel when it comes to the sales and service of their machines. i've been buying tandy right from the beginning, starting with a model 2. it developed disk problems (would not be able to write to half of a disk) so i called them to ask them what it could be. they said bring it down. took it into the center at southcenter (when there was a computer center there) and they took a look at it. claimed there was no problem. they checked it out with trsdos, which ran single density. i used cp/m, which does double density. had them boot the machine on my OS, and the problem showed up. they claimed that the machine was functioning fine, as it worked with their (brain dead) operating system. needless to say, i wasn't happy about this, and they tried to charge me $55 for that!!! i told them i will only pay them if they repair it so it would do double density like it had before, and they refused. mind you, there were several million copies of pickles and trout cp/m out there running fine on tandy machines at double density, mine just happenned to have that part broken. it wouldn't have bothered me if they would have repaired it, but they flat out refused to do so. strangely enough, radio shack eventually did produce a version of trsdos that did double density, but they didn't have a copy of that around at the time. really pissed me off. i refused to pay them, and they haven't come after me to this day. once in portland i needed a host interface for my model 12 so i could connect a tandy hard drive subsystem i had laying around. i went to the store that handled computers for my area, and the sales people didn't even know what i was talking about. (mind you, i was using terms right out of tandy's own catalogue.) i described the machine to them, and they claimed that they never produced a machine that used 8 inch floppies!! finally, after i pointed to it in an old catalogue, they drew blanks on their faces. found the catalogue number of the host interface. they keyed it up in their computer. sure enough, there it was. none in stock, so they'll have to order one. they call ft worth... fort worth has none. they aren't making them anymore... so, i ask for a copy of the technical reference manual for the model 2 series, which would have the schematic of the host interface, so that i could reverse engineer the thing. and that's when the salecritter REALLY pissed me off royally... "why don't you just get rid of this old junk and buy one of our new tandy 1000s?? we have credit terms if you need them..." i walked out of the store... and since that time, i have never gone back into a radio shack store for any computer related purpose...
#812 49 Tue Feb 4 15:15:45 1992 [The SysOp] Tracy Harton [La Salamandre] @ Salamandria, Dallas
I've got my share of unknown jumperfull (heh) cards laying around here..
#818 49 Tue Feb 4 18:40:54 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
Why in the world would somebody who doesn't even have enough income to pay her electric bill sign up for a loan on a $1700 computer? I think it's time to stop slamming Tandy and recognize that what we have here is a case of advanced consumer stupidity. The machine may have been overpriced, but that has nothing to do with the fact that she signed up for a loan she couldn't afford. If somebody sold her a rock for $1700 the obligation would have been just as real. Now that I've heard more of the story, though, I'd say she should go ahead and default and ruin her credit rating since she obviously isn't credit worthy anyway.
#792 49 Tue Feb 4 21:12:34 1992 [That's really sweet of you,] stderr [but I said I was 'Gaelic'.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
She told me that she DOESN'T have the money to pay this computer off. That means she has to default and ruin her credit or somewho fight it in court.
#793 49 Tue Feb 4 21:14:33 1992 [That's really sweet of you,] stderr [but I said I was 'Gaelic'.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Chuck> Why can't she use whatever methods at her disposal to get back at a company that used every method it had to take advantage of her? Also, it's part of ripping people off, that everyone will talk badly about you behind your back. That is one of the most powerful methods consumers have to make business carry its fair burden.
#794 49 Wed Feb 5 00:02:49 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
And as for selling in a newspaper add... I see a lot of over-priced systems for sale. I doubt that any of them sell at the advertised price. From working in real estate I know that over-priced stuff just sits there. Oh, once in a while someone comes along and NEEDS something that's over-priced. And he usually finds a way to buy it. But that's rare. The only thing high prices do is help sell everyone else's stuff. I doubt she can get $700 for it even if it's in the paper for a month. True market value is probably more like $400. I have bought more than one complete system (including printer) for around $200. I bought a nice 286 with a 40 meg HD, printer, mouse, mono monitor, 2 megs of RAM for $350. (And it wasn't a Tandy!)
#827 49 Wed Feb 5 10:00:06 1992 [Master Mind SysAdmin] Chang Yoon [@mm1.uucp/mm1.lonestar.org] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Tracy's right and so is Malcolm. When she went out to buy the computer in the first place, she should have taken someone who was knowledgeable. Also, WHY IN THE WORLD is she buying a computer when she can't even pay her electric bills?!? That's fairly stupid. Then again, she could be trying to screw Radio Shack..
#814 49 Wed Feb 5 11:25:58 1992 Peter Sarrett @ TurboTech, Seattle
To reclaim some shelf-space (a very scarce resource lately), I'm putting a sizable portion of my Star Trek novel collection up for sale. More are in good condition, many are in excellent condition, and one or two are mint. Here is a complete list of what's on the block: The Klingon Dictionary (1st Edition, 1985) by Marc Okrand. $5.00 Planet of Judgement by Joe Haldeman. $2.00 Perry's Planet by Jack C. Haldeman II. $2.00 Spock, Messiah! by Theodore H. Cogswell and Charles A Spano Jr. $2.00 Mudd's Angels by J.A. Lawrence. $2.00 Vulcan! by Kathleen Sky. $2.00 Death's Angel by Kathleen Sky. $2.00 The Entropy Effect by Vonda N. McIntyre. $2.00 The Klingon Gambit by Robert E. Vardeman. $2.00 The Covenant of the Crown by Howard Weinstein. $2.00 The Prometheus Design by Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath. $2.00 Black Fire by Sonni Cooper. $2.00 Triangle by Marshak and Culbreath. $2.00 Web of the Romulans by M.S. Murdock. $2.00 Mutiny on the Enterprise by Robert E. Vardeman. $2.00 The Wounded Sky by Diane Duane. $2.50 Corona by Greg Bear. $2.00 The Tears of the Singers by Melinda Snodgrass. $2.50 The Vulcan Academy Murders (2 copies) by Jean Lorrah. $2.00 each Uhura's Song by Janet Kagan. $2.50 Killing Time bu Della Van Hise. $2.50 Mindshadow by J.M. Dillard. $2.50 Crisis on Centaurus by Brad Ferguson. $2.50 Dreadnought! by Diane Carey. $2.50 Demons by J.M. Dillard. $2.50 Battlestations! by Diane Carey. $2.50 Chain of Attack by Gene DeWeese. $2.50 How Much For Just the Planet? by John M. Ford. $2.50 Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home by Vonda N. McIntyre. $2.50 Buyer is also responsible for shipping costs (probably about 50 cents per book, I'd guess). I'll also sell the whole set of 30 books for $60. First person to email me with a request for a book takes it. If someone asks for the whole set before I receive payment for any individual books, they'll get the set. You can reach me via email at TurboTech, or you can reach me at my own BBS (Snickersnack: (206)869-8697).
#819 49 Wed Feb 5 14:02:34 1992 [The SysOp] Tracy Harton [La Salamandre] @ Salamandria, Dallas
I agree Malcolm, RS has done NOTHING wrong here. If she can't pay, or doesn't want to pay, that's HER problem.
#820 49 Wed Feb 5 23:46:09 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
Bolan : Why not ZMODEM?
#795 49 Thu Feb 6 01:17:31 1992 [all] Nique [woman] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
For sale by owner: 14' x 70' 1984 mobile home, in good condition. Asking 11,900 for it. Want to sell so we can buy a house. It's in a family area in a mobile home park, good neighborhood. Email me here, or call The Fireside bbs (352-2782, in Oly) and leave me a message there, if you would like to make an appointment to see the mobile home. (oh... btw... it has 3 bedrooms, 1 bath, good-size living room.
#831 49 Thu Feb 6 04:06:17 1992 [Me hablo no Ingles.] Musha Aleste [What'd he say?] @ Who Am I, Nashville
To whomever it was above that was selling keyboards; I'd like more information on them, because I might be interested in purchasing one....
#823 49 Thu Feb 6 15:35:17 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Look, I bought a PS/2 Model 50Z three years ago and payed $2,975.00 for it with DOS and mono VGA. Was it IBMs fault that I fell for a dog at that price? No. I payed the bill and still have the 50Z. I will never sell it because for all I could get for it, it is better for me to live with it as a play machine for the kids. Moral of the story... Tandy is a retailer. Period. She made the decision, she should live up to it. I am not defending Tandy's poor service in the least, and I would never buy a Tandy to start with, I used to work for Radio Shack in Alderwood Mall when it first opened in 1979. Except for the very few so called gurus at the time which were extremely scattered, the salesmen, including me, knew nothing. The sad part was that Tandy made no effort to ever try to teach us ANYTHING about the comuters, only to sell them. As far as I know, it has never changed. Funny side note.. the local district manager always treated me good when I was there in Seattle working in Alderwood. I led him dicreetly to think I was a spy from the home office, being as I had moved there from Dallas... ;-)
#824 49 Thu Feb 6 18:47:54 1992 julie barrett @ The Lost Island, Dallas
yeah, i used to work for RS, way back in my distant past. i was one of the few store managers who knew a bit from a byte, so they put me in a store near TI where a big percentage of the customers were computer literate. unfortunately, it was not a good company to work for at the time -- unless you were a man (despite what they claimed).
#796 49 Thu Feb 6 23:34:52 1992 [s] Dr. Technical [doc] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
There is a place in Portland (I think) name of John's Import Auto Wrecking (800 446 7678) which claims to be "the largest Supply in the Country" of Volvo parts you might give them a try. p.s. Radio Shack has the highest profit margin of any computer retailer. Their sales people are ignorant for a reason.
#828 49 Thu Feb 6 23:59:44 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
Ok, just going to jump on the bandwagon and say "Why did she buy a computer when she can't even pay the electric bills?!?" There I went and said it... now I feel like a part of the group again. :) Who are we talking about?
#829 49 Fri Feb 7 00:01:08 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
WOW! A Klingon Dictionary! Just what I've been looking for! (HONEST!) Just in case my e-mail doesn't reach you, I'll post this public message. :) I want that book... (wow, what a coincidence)
#797 49 Fri Feb 7 01:24:37 1992 [That's really sweet of you,] stderr [but I said I was 'Gaelic'.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Yea, the Radio Shack saleman might be a moral person and have to admit their computers are a rip off. Management says, "Keep 'em stupid and they will sell!"
#830 49 Fri Feb 7 10:39:48 1992 [new power soul] Kevin C. Verde [new power generation] @ V'ger, Allen
WANTED: 386sx motherboard w/ 1-2megs mem. (I want a soon-to-be starving college student price!) After I get a mother board, I will have a 286 6/8 mhz Pc's Limited AT (Dell Computers) motherboard for sale... w/ 1 meg of mem.
#815 49 Fri Feb 7 12:06:03 1992 [That's really sweet of you,] stderr [but I said I was 'Gaelic'.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
You know, if a person is thinking about going bankrupt but doesn't think she has enough money to do that, I would think trying to give her a guilt trip about defaulting on that ripoff Tandy is a bit silly. She CAN'T pay for it. That is not an option.
#816 49 Fri Feb 7 23:08:31 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
stderr> Next time I'm in a RS (if ever), I'll look at their 286's and ask about the prices. Then I'll tell 'em it isn't worth that much. They'll affirm that it is well worth the money. Then I'll say, "I might buy it for $1,000." They'll probably respond,"I'd buy it too for that price!" And I'll say, "Good. I have one for sale and we'll even throw in a printer!"
#832 49 Fri Feb 7 23:38:06 1992 [Ed Howdershelt] Runestone Cowboy @ Rainbow's End, Dallas
The following are for sale or trade: ------------------------------------ BOCARAM-AT ram card, up to 4 megs, $50 uses 256k or 64k SIPP chips, box, book, disk included. > RLL controller card WD1002A-27X, $20 > PC-WRITE Standard Level 2.0 Edition, factory-sealed. (retail $129) $50 > PCTOOLS 7.1, unused, 3.5" disks, box, books, etc... $45 > Manual for CP/M-86 (IBM's CP/M) $05 (Someone was looking for this) > PRINTER, 24-pin, Tandy DMP2100-P with tractor feed, paper racks, cable, and book. Use on IBM or Tandy computers. Uses Toshiba 1351 ribbons & parts. Cost $1600 in 1988, now...........$300 > Ed Howdershelt, (904) 688-1469 (note: printer needs no special gear to hook up to normal IBM-types.)
#817 49 Fri Feb 7 23:46:55 1992 [That's really sweet of you,] stderr [but I said I was 'Gaelic'.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
hehe....
#833 49 Sat Feb 8 07:58:17 1992 [AKA] Mary Ann Caruth [@ Xanthippe's] @ V'ger, Allen
What would be a good price for a mouse and a RS232 for an XT?
#834 49 Sat Feb 8 09:44:46 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
Mary, plan on spending about $50 for a multifunction card. You might get just a serial card for a bit less, but you really don't want to eat up a whole slot for just serial. You should be able to find a mouse for $30 or so.
#835 49 Sat Feb 8 09:47:39 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
a freind of mine has for sale: AK47 semi-auto rifle. new style with more "civillian" appearance, nice wood stocks, never fired, uses cheap 7.62 X 39 ammo, detatchable magazines hold 5 or 20 rounds, (2 sizes), very nice. compare at gun shows for $700 & up, he only wants $500. leave me .eemail if you are interested.
#825 49 Sat Feb 8 13:31:21 1992 [That's really sweet of you,] stderr [but I said I was 'Gaelic'.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Isn't Rat Shack at all responsible for agreeing to loan someone who can't possibly pay all this money? I'm sure you are all the same people who are mad at the Savings & Loans who did the same stupid thing. Remember that they also misrepresented the 286-10 w/ CGA as an "AutoCAD workstation".....
#826 49 Sat Feb 8 14:05:26 1992 [I am a form] Scorpion [of plant life] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Take them to small claims for that
#2214 49 Sat Feb 8 14:11:13 1992 [Malformed] Nivek [Earthborn] @ Who Am I, Nashville
I've got an Amiga 500 with software, two drives, 1084s Stereo Monitor... Leave me E-Mail and a price suggestion....
#836 49 Sun Feb 9 16:03:17 1992 Generic SysOp @ Magnetic Media, The Great Pacific NorthWest, US WA 206 PRI-VATE
For Sale: ECLIPSE Parasail, brand new, never used. Standard 24 package, includes: 24 foot 16 gore canopy Harness-fully adjustable and padded Safety tow release 300 foot tow rope Instruction manual carrying bag. Minimum recommended boat horsepower: 60 HP Minimum flying speed: 12-15 MPH Hey, I'll even instruct you how to use it! $750.00 firm E-Mail to Generic SysOp@Magnetic Media
#842 49 Mon Feb 10 11:05:36 1992 [Master Mind SysAdmin] Chang Yoon [@mm1.uucp/mm1.lonestar.org] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
<grin> Well, we'll all see what happens to this woman and definately agree that Tandy attempts to keep their employees stupid. Like I said before, I once tried to get a job with them, but they said that they wanted "retail background." (Yes I was desperate) so instead, I just became the regional manager of a small computer company..
#844 49 Mon Feb 10 19:43:12 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
Earth calling space, Earth calling space. Since when can one "not afford" to go bankrupt?
#843 49 Mon Feb 10 22:48:26 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
Pat J -- I thought semi-automatic firearms were now ILLEGAL? (somebody?) pardon me if I'm wrong.
#846 49 Tue Feb 11 02:40:43 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Wrong, Bryan.... automatics are illegal... some semis can no longer be sold be gun shops, but ALL can be traded or sold privately. Especially in Texas, where re-registration of guns is not demanded, allowed or even encouraged by the state and local governemnts.
#837 49 Tue Feb 11 04:45:18 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Mary Ann Caruth> Look in Computer Shopper. A serial card is about $12. A mouse is about $29 or more.
#845 49 Tue Feb 11 05:39:13 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
No, they are not illegal. fully automatic ones are illegal, unless you have a federal permit. if they outlawed semi-automatic guns, that would be probably over half the guns now owned. many "hunting rifles" are semi-auto, as are many pistols.
#848 49 Tue Feb 11 08:08:38 1992 wayne a. willingham @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
We've beaten the RS thread to death, now. Perhaps a NEW idea would be worth reading about, but we all have generally the same opinion on the matter and on Radio $hack.
#850 49 Tue Feb 11 15:13:19 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Exactly, Pat... as a matter of fact, my Pistola is a German Walther PPK semi-auto.
#847 49 Tue Feb 11 16:24:55 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
Now I know. Wish I had $500, I could buy myself that home security system. :)
#849 49 Tue Feb 11 18:43:03 1992 ROBERT MARTIN [Most just smell like they did!] @ V'ger, Allen
Bryan,one more thing. If they made semi-autos illegal,then most semi-auto shotguns would also fall into that category. They tried this once,when the Brady bill first came up...
#2215 49 Tue Feb 11 19:41:50 1992 [Ear-ring] Earball [Eye-ball] @ Who Am I, Nashville
I have a C-128 that I'm trying to get rid of. It has a color monitor, an 80-column attachment, a printer, and a butt-load of games. If anyone is interested, please make an offer.
#838 49 Tue Feb 11 23:20:35 1992 [Tap dancin' on] Blade Runner [a landmine...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Hmm, would anyone out there have a 1969 Mach I Mustang around that they would be willing to trade for a 1984 Audi GT Coupe? I'm looking for a Mustang with a 351 Cleveland motor(I believe it was produced that year) with all stock 4 barrel equipment(i.e. manifold, heads, carb.). I'd prefer a manual trans. but I'm flexible. The Audi is worth around $4,500, if anyone is interested leave me some email...
#2216 49 Wed Feb 12 03:17:38 1992 [Solve et] Angst Badger [Coagula] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Ah, do wish I had a nice 9mm Beretta. Never held another gun that felt so right, so well balanced in my hand. Everything else feels like I'm holding a gun; a Beretta feels like a gun naturally grows out of the end of my arm.
#2217 49 Wed Feb 12 03:55:17 1992 [It's your friendly neighbor-] Musha Aleste [hood Spider-Man...] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Tell me about it.
#854 49 Wed Feb 12 08:25:11 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
I was thinking the AK47 has an automatic mode.
#852 49 Wed Feb 12 08:48:13 1992 David Taylor @ The Lost Island, Dallas
And now for something completely different: AN ACTUAL FOR SALE MESSAGE: Guitar Tube Amplifier for sale. Less than one-year-old Fender 1x12 "Super 60" tube amplifier with 1 ea 12" Celestion speaker. Amp uses two 12AX7 tubes in the preamp stages and two 6L6GC/5881 Power tubes. Channel switching between clean and distorted channels, footswitch included. This amp is clean and has the closest thing to a vintage Marshall JTM-45 sound in a small, less-than-ear-splitting size. Marshall mini-combos don't even come close. I will entertain offers at 214-343-0520 (calls only, no replies here please) Amp is in the Dallas area. P.S. regarding prior ad for ES335 guitar and old Jensen speakers, please disregard - all sold (so stop calling at 11:30pm, please???)
#853 49 Wed Feb 12 10:52:03 1992 Chuck Knight @ Salamandria, Dallas
Well, it *could* run AutoCAD... It just wouldn't do it well!
#851 49 Wed Feb 12 11:41:01 1992 [C++ anyone?] Mike Strock @ TurboTech, Seattle
Malcolm, One cannot 'afford' to go bankrupt if they want to have any kind of good credit rating. Bankruptsy(sp) stays on your record for 7-10 years, and is a very nasty thing to try and rid yourself of.
#855 49 Wed Feb 12 12:18:24 1992 [new power soul] Kevin C. Verde [new power generation] @ V'ger, Allen
Can ANYONE lead me to the best deal on purchasing a 386sx w/ VGA and a HD? On Prodigy (I know, you hate Prodigy), I saw a Magnavox 386sx w/vga and a 40 meg HD for $899... Can I do better (Price and/or quality)?
#856 49 Wed Feb 12 14:07:16 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
Kevin, you can get the same thing at IMS for $859, and better support.
#862 49 Wed Feb 12 18:03:43 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Cool! I've got a walther too! its a P38.
#857 49 Wed Feb 12 18:35:07 1992 Night Hawk [the Iconoclast] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Kevin - Don't buy the SX...
#839 49 Wed Feb 12 20:46:58 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
I need a few things: A VGA card and monitor. (Paper white is OK.) A 3 1/2 inch drive. (DD or HD) A 386sx or a 386 mainboard. I know I will probably have to go to a larger Net to find the mainboard. But I will try here first. Leave E-mail or call me voice at 206-754-3953.
#840 49 Wed Feb 12 22:24:30 1992 [Tap dancin' on] Blade Runner [a landmine...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
About the Mustang... I might be interested in a 1970 or 71 also.. 1969 is my preference though. I might also be interested in buying one outright, no trade...
#858 49 Wed Feb 12 23:58:28 1992 [from Garland, Texas...] Bolan Meek [, your servant] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Chuck, you beat me to it.... well, if it has a math co-processor, or an older version of AutoCAD... Bryan: I have the specs for XMODEM in the book I have on Serial Communications, and code that I can boil down - but it'll be easier to code my own from the flow-chart- , however, I do want/plan to implement ZMODEM in the not-so-far future. I am thinking more than a little about offering some version of my term program shareware: offering back-ground auto-redial and up/down load, with shelling out to DOS for less memory gobbling than TELEMATE. What I'd want to do is offer the ZMODEM implementation in return for registration... Lee Hauman: I tried to send you some .EEmail on the Windows 3.0, but it came back, not being able to find you... do you still have it?
#859 49 Thu Feb 13 00:59:55 1992 BUZ BOX @ PhotoSynthesis, Seattle, US WA 206 323 2433
======== =WANTED= ======== A program that will let me see commador graphicts on my APPLE // e if you have or now some one that has one let me now so i can get a copy of it also would like a APPLE // e BBS program if there is one leav me E-Mail hear and i will get with you thanks ;=)BUZ BOX(=; /s
#863 49 Thu Feb 13 07:59:02 1992 [new power soul] Kevin C. Verde [new power generation] @ V'ger, Allen
Yeah, Malcolm... I just called IMS yesterday... What are the advantages of upgrading versus replacing my computer...
#861 49 Thu Feb 13 10:05:33 1992 [5th Dimension SYSOP] Maher @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Wayne, not a "thread", it's called a "topic" or "discussion". Thread reminds of me of a long line of unrelated topics of the old linear systems. Ugh..
#864 49 Thu Feb 13 14:59:11 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
I have the 7.65mm ( 32 cal. ) .... I like it because it is powerful enough to do the dmage and easy enough for my wife to handle.
#1517 49 Thu Feb 13 18:52:42 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
Kevin, the advantage of upgrading is somewhat reduced cost. The advantage of replacing is you have a whole computer left over instead of an pile of parts. Contrary to whoever said it, there's nothing wrong with an SX - it runs nearly as fast as the same speed DX, since a lot of the memory cycles are consumed in lookahead instruction cache fetches during what would otherwise be non-memory cycles. However the SX only goes up to 20 MHz (or 25?) The DX goes up to 40. At the high end, though, you're better off with a '486-33. Intel is in the process of squeezing out their own '386 DX processor between the '386 SX and the '486.
#1516 49 Thu Feb 13 19:02:17 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
But Bolan, if your term program can shell to DOS, why not just run an external Zmodem?
#860 49 Thu Feb 13 19:06:58 1992 [America's #1 asshole] Fo Ming at Mouth [and fucking proud of it, man..] @ The Bilge, South Seattle Hell, US/WA/206-760-9861
i'm not questioning that it was a brain dead thing for her to buy a computer when she couldn't afford the electricity to run it, and i'm not questioning that it was another brain dead thing for her to go computer shopping without a knowledgeable guide... what i am questioning is the misleading statements made about the machine's capabilities that probably played a good percentage in the decision to buy it or not. radio shack is very well known for doing that, and i have experienced their deception before. which is why i don't buy from them anymore...
#1515 49 Fri Feb 14 01:49:54 1992 Chuck Thompson @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Malcolm -- Do you sense some sort of "they" attitude here? "They" went out on the street and dragged some poor woman in and "they" made her buy a computer that now isn't worth what "they" said it was and "they" ought to be punished because "they" should have known better. Doesn't anyone take responsibility for his/her own actions any more? I have a vision of some of these folks running about yelling about the gummit interfering in their private lives (a sentiment with which I agree, by the way) but then, "they" need to be punished for offering for sale something that, in hindsight, wasn't what "she" thought "they" said. Did I miss something here? Did a salesman hold a gun to her head and make her buy that Tandy computer? Did someone hold her hand and make her sign the payment agreement? I bought a 386-25 about 18 months ago -- 4 megs of RAM, 105 meg HD, 5.25 and 3 inch floppies, SVGA monitor -- nice computer. Got it at dealer cost for about $2850. I could get the same thing today for about half that, and could probably get a 486-33 with a bigger HD for the 3 grand. Do you suppose that "they" ought to give me my money back? Great concept. "I" do whatever "I" want, and when something doesn't work out the way "I" planned it, "they" are responsible. Whatever happened to self reliance? Cheers................................ c h u c k
#1521 49 Fri Feb 14 15:10:14 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
I went to rat shack, (do you believe they no longer sell full range 12" speakers? you have to buy a woofer and tweeter!) and there was a cool display running on one of their 386sx-20's with vga. max headroom is alive and well!
#1518 49 Fri Feb 14 20:13:16 1992 [Jim] jim arnold [Arnold] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
The 386-SX is a good processor, but only a fool would buy a 486-SX.
#1519 49 Sat Feb 15 02:29:54 1992 Bob Thurman @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Chuck -- I never thought I'd have to say this, but I agree with you 100% on this one. "They" are responsible for everything that happens to anyone now. Personal responsibility is a thing of the past. What no one can figure out, it seems, is that when you welch on a debt, the company has to raise costs to cover it. Who pays? We all do.
#1522 49 Sat Feb 15 10:59:31 1992 [The SysOp] Tracy Harton [La Salamandre] @ Salamandria, Dallas
I'm looking a card with TWO parallel ports... Do these things even exist? I've looked all over, but no one seems to carry them. Its fine if the 2nd port is on just a separate back panel like many serial cards do. (I've got lots of opening I can move it to so I don't use a slot...) A Multi I/O card would be fine, too. (1/2 Serial, 2 Parallel, Game doesn't matter).. Any ideas?
#1520 49 Sat Feb 15 12:09:11 1992 [*8^}] Bran Tregare @ StarShip Inconnu, Seattle
Well, a few questions... I'm looking for a GOOD price on a mini tower case or med or full-size tower case with PS... these would be needed for 286-12/16 motherboards Also, if you have the choice, go DX! I've discovered that my SX, while really nice in the multitasdking department, lacks something when I'm going for more ram, etc...
#1523 49 Sat Feb 15 19:28:15 1992 [AKA] Mary Ann Caruth [@ Xanthippe's] @ V'ger, Allen
Hello, I can't find the For Trade Room: I would like to swap Typesetter PC for PC Draw. Typesetter is pretty neat, you can get near-laser quality printing from a dot matrix printer, and put all kinds of weird graphics on the page with a mouse.
#2212 49 Sat Feb 15 23:48:01 1992 [new power soul] Kevin C. Verde [new power generation] @ V'ger, Allen
What exactly is the difference between VGA and superVGA? Will all VGA programs run on standard VGA or do some need the "super "? Also, is it worth an extra $79 bucks to get it?
#1524 49 Sun Feb 16 09:28:56 1992 Bruce Wade @ TurboTech, Seattle
Bran, you can have a Mini-tower with 200+ watt P/S for $85, medium Tower $125. Two 5 1/4, three 3 1/2 bays in the mini, three of each in the medium.
#2213 49 Sun Feb 16 15:25:43 1992 wayne a. willingham @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Re: IMS. I've bought LOTS of systems from IMS, and have always gotten good deals and great support. Tell 'em I sent ya. Re: New vs. Upgrade. There's so little difference in price, once you sell off your old system, that you might as well get this year's technology thru the whole system, and not just a piece at a time. There are MY opinions, anyway.
#2218 49 Sun Feb 16 18:37:37 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
Tracy, IMS has a dual serial/dual parallel board for $27. Beltline at Marsh or Parker at Independence. Kevin, VGA is 640 X 480 X 16 or 320 X 480 X 256. SVGA is 640 X 480 X 256 and up. My system (NEC Multisync 3D and Video-7 board) can do 1024 X 768 at 16 colors and 800 X 600 at 256 colors. I think I have one GIF picture that takes advantage of all that capability.
#2219 49 Mon Feb 17 05:16:26 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
1970 buick skylark, 455, th400, tilt, a/c, p/s,p/b, etc.. $600
#2223 49 Mon Feb 17 16:14:59 1992 [new power soul] Kevin C. Verde [new power generation] @ V'ger, Allen
Would anyone be interested in a Pc Limited (Dell Computer's out of Austin, Texas) 286 AT 6/8mhz (keyboard switchable) with EGA card and monitor and a relatively new 40 meg hard drive?
#2228 49 Mon Feb 17 20:36:23 1992 Dernhelm @ Who Am I, Nashville
Buzz Box: I have an Apple BBS program that is shareware. What kind of media are you running on? (5.25 or 3.5) Best way to get this to you is probably U.S. Snail mail. Might also have the graphics program you want.
#2220 49 Mon Feb 17 22:16:27 1992 Eric Davis @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Kevin, to expand on what Malcolm said..the SVGA relly comes into effect when you use AutoCAD and it's releated products..I think you can also use it for Windows but don't qoute me on that. If you are going to use your computer for Cad programs then it is well worth your money.. otherwise if you are going to use it for viewing Gifs,programming,or playing games then I recomend getting the VGA and not the SVGA. As of now only a few CAD programs and maybe Windows supports SVGA..no game manufactures plan on supporting SVGA anytime in the near future, also there are few gifs that are 1024 x 768 in size;anyway certain gif programs will allow you to view the gif even with a VGA. Hope this answers your question. Eric D.
#2221 49 Tue Feb 18 00:23:51 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
1979 Pacer Wagon DL, 285, a/c (sometimes), p/s (unless it dies), etc. $20. And I just put $7 worth of spark plugs in it! So that's really a $13 deal! wow! Oh yea, there is no handle on the inside passenger side... the roof lining matches the living room tablecloth (a blue floral pattern), the brakes go out sometimes, and the transmission is shot. Oh, needs new apolstry(sp?) also... and the radio doesn't work. Did I say $20? I meant $30, sorry. NOTE TO THE HUMOR IMPAIRED: I'm just getting... I wouldn't sell my only transportation for a mere $30! It would take at least $150.
#2222 49 Tue Feb 18 02:30:05 1992 rusty @ Salamandria, Dallas
gee, am i the only one who sometimes likes radio shack?? no, i won't pay $199. for their CP/M that runs on the Mod 4, both of which have been out of production for years, but if i see a TRS-x around, i'm real interested! and besides, i have half a dozen battery club cards and get all the batteries my pager can eat (oh, 5-6 a month) for free each month.... :-)
#2229 49 Tue Feb 18 02:40:15 1992 [Sol] Angst Badger [Invictus] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Kevin: SVGA has higher resolutions and more colors than VGA. Up to 24 million colors, for that matter.
#2224 49 Tue Feb 18 04:28:12 1992 [The Energizer Bunny] Ray @ TurboTech, Seattle
SVGA is worth the extra $79. There are now games that take advantage to SVGA and most SVGA boards come with Windows drivers. I run Windows at 1024x768x256. I also have a few games that use 640x480x256 which normal VGA doesn't do. Also it's cheaper to get it now, then to upgrade later.
#2227 49 Tue Feb 18 05:15:18 1992 [The SYSOP] Dennis Recla @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Anyone have any suggestions on where I might be able to find a Lap-top computer... under 8 lbs 286 or 386 20 meg minimum HD drive 1 meg memory internal battery VGA screen And...... less than $1000 HELP! .
#2225 49 Tue Feb 18 09:03:17 1992 Jay Lowe @ TurboTech, Seattle
If you're buying video now, then definitely go for ñ…SVGA. The default choice is any TSENG ET4000 based card: There are dozens of them ranging from û$90 to $190. A step above is faster versions of the same basic structure. The only thing to consider is that the default Windows display 18 - 24 months from nowû will be a step beyond the basic ET4000 archtitecture. No standard has emerged but there are plenty of contenders showing up week by week.û So you can buy VGA now, and fast-SVGA later, or SVGA now and fast-SVGA later. Windows is SO much better at 800*600. And if you want to do real DTP or drawing, or CAD, then you'll want to use 1024*768 which gets you the ability to see a page actual size (horizontally).
#2230 49 Tue Feb 18 14:15:47 1992 [Who knows what evil lurks in] Musha Aleste [the hearts of men? Bwahahaha] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Angst: I thought it was 32 mil. colors, wasn't it (w/ the right card and enough Vid. RAM) ?
#1662 49 Tue Feb 18 16:09:55 1992 [That's really sweet of you,] stderr [but I said I was 'Gaelic'.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
I'm going with the 486SX right now, jim arnold. I think if you used some logic you would too. Bob Thurman> First of all, who cares if Tandy has to raise their prices? I mean they are already ripping people off with junk computers. And it does seem that this woman was lied to. She was told things that were not true. They signed her up for a 20% interest debt and had her only pay the interest . They never bothered to see if she could repay. Is she an idiot for not finding all this out herself? Yes, I think she is. But Tandy is responsible for this too.
#2226 49 Tue Feb 18 18:25:38 1992 Bugs Bunny @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
But what about paper white VGAs? Some of those can get REAL nice, with hundreds of shades between black and white.
#2231 49 Tue Feb 18 20:47:28 1992 [Sol] Angst Badger [Invictus] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Musha: You're right. It's 32 million colors from a 24 bit card. I always get mixed up about the details of hardware I can't possibly afford.
#1663 49 Tue Feb 18 21:30:32 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Tracy Horton> I haven't seen an IO card with more than one parallel port. I'd suggest using two cards.
#1664 49 Tue Feb 18 23:04:26 1992 [Tap dancin' on] Blade Runner [a landmine...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Pat> you shouldn't buy speakers from Rat Shack anyway. They're garbage for the most part. Unless it's for an application that doesn't require sound quality. Get them from a better source, perhaps a distributor of quality merchandise. Quality being Dynaudio, Eclipse, Vifa, etc. The system will sound better too...
#1665 49 Tue Feb 18 23:26:37 1992 [The only mistake] stderr [I ever maked.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
And you won't be feeding the "merchants of desease"
#2232 49 Wed Feb 19 10:28:07 1992 [The Super-SysAdmin] Chang Kun Yoon [at mm1.lonestar.org] @ Salamandria, Dallas
Looking for Used SPARC workstations or clones.
#2233 49 Wed Feb 19 14:22:19 1992 [The SysOp] Tracy Harton [La Salamandre] @ Salamandria, Dallas
Sure, chang. ;-)
#2453 49 Wed Feb 19 17:55:43 1992 [Neuron] Maxxima Thule [Eight] @ Who Am I, Nashville
With the latter requirement, I don't know...
#2322 49 Wed Feb 19 19:31:00 1992 [new power soul] Kevin C. Verde [new power generation] @ V'ger, Allen
So I should pay $79 more for SVga when I don't use CAD or Windows?
#2320 49 Wed Feb 19 23:28:28 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
Yea, where do you find those, Change? In the Dallas Morning News under L-48 (computers)??? ;)
#2321 49 Wed Feb 19 23:28:41 1992 [Co-Sysop] Bryan Parker @ Salamandria, Dallas
Excuse me, didn't mean to call you 'Change'....
#2323 49 Thu Feb 20 02:48:54 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Why not? It's only 75 dollars....
#2324 49 Thu Feb 20 05:55:28 1992 [U.S.S. Inverness] Jonathan McGirr [(214) 245 - 9315] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
And while you're at it, might as well spend the extra for a 486......
#2325 49 Thu Feb 20 17:21:07 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Really... the prices have gotten extremely competitive and mouth watering.
#2454 49 Fri Feb 21 09:02:36 1992 [The SysOp] Tracy Harton [La Salamandre] @ Salamandria, Dallas
Wanted: [Atleast] ONE cheap 1200 baud modem! Now, it doesn't have to be cheap in quality, but just cheap in price! Any of them out there?
#2234 49 Fri Feb 21 11:33:46 1992 [The only mistake] stderr [I ever maked.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Chang kun Yoon> Have you seen that SPACRcard from Opus somthing or other? Angst> No one goes beyond 16.7million colors. 24bit. The extra bits in a 32bit card are used for other cool stuff. Dennis Recla> I think there are some things out there in that price range. 286 laptops are being dumped right now.
#2455 49 Fri Feb 21 12:48:46 1992 [The Super-SysAdmin] Chang Kun Yoon [at mm1.lonestar.org] @ Salamandria, Dallas
Bryan & Tracy> I'm serious. I'm trying to convince my parents to buy me a Sparc or at least a clone when I hit graduate school. Sooner would be nicer though.
#2696 49 Sat Feb 22 02:54:24 1992 Bob Thurman @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
stderr> It's not just Tandy raising their prices, my friend, it's every merchannt you and I do business with. My point (and Chuck's, as I remember) is that no one now will take responsibility for their own actions. Make that 'merchant."
#2697 49 Sat Feb 22 10:38:43 1992 David Crawford @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Chang, right now Apollo runs circles around the Sparc for about the same money.
#2698 49 Sat Feb 22 11:50:20 1992 [Green eyed] Shara [Wenchy Woman] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Tracy, you want a 1200 baud, you got it for.... uh, how much is cheap?
#2414 49 Sat Feb 22 13:11:19 1992 [Ever eaten an entire bag of] stderr [Silica-Gel? Try two!!!!!!!!] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
The price difference between a 1024x768 interlaced monitor and a 640x480 monitor is about $15. That's probably worth it. Most cards can do 800x600 out of the box.
#2699 49 Sat Feb 22 17:13:15 1992 [The Yeti saw my lounge act &] Allen Larson [call me The Abominable Showman] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
I wouldn't buy big-ticket items at RAdio Shack, but they are a good source for some hard to find items, like y-patch-cords with the right kind of jacks you want, etc. I also found for about $20 a good junction box that lets me use my one AUX input on my stereo to plug in several sources (TV, CD player, tape player) and switch between them without having to re-connect wires all the time.
#2703 49 Sat Feb 22 18:18:55 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
The bottom line is, and always has been, caveate emptor. I've made a few stupid purchases in my life, but I never went crying to the vendor to undo my stupidity. It's stupid to sign on the dotted line for something you can't afford, and it's childish to expect the big corporation to make the problem go away. The folks in the Radio Shack store are not, in general, educated enough to know if they're lying. If you're no more educated you have no business shopping there. Almost every time I buy anything at Radio Shack I have to describe in detail what I need to the salesman I wanted to leave me alone. One time I was looking for 92 ohm cable and BNC connectors for an ARCnet I was putting together. I wound up with 50 ohm cable which was OK because the run was short, and that was all they had. I bet the guy that sold me that cable told every next customer they needed CB antenna cable for ARCnet. You have to keep in mind that even those self-taught in electronics get better jobs than that. I at least try to explain to them what I need, why I need it, and what I intend to do with it, since my input is about the only electronics training they'll ever get. Still, most of it seems to zip over their heads.
#2701 49 Sat Feb 22 23:18:51 1992 [The SysOp] Tracy Harton [La Salamandre] @ Salamandria, Dallas
Bonnie, I'm not sure how much is cheap.. I'm not buying it for myself (got all the modems I need, just not enough to sell to this person).. Its for a school teacher that needs it for something.. (You can tell I was told the full story, eh?) Also, is it internal or external? I think the person was looking for around $20-30 and that would be stretching their budget.. Tracy
#2704 49 Sat Feb 22 23:50:12 1992 [Sysop without a BBS] Night Hawk @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Malcolm - well it's not like the people are Radio Crack are working there because NASA wasn't hiring that day... there's a Radio Shack by me with a guy that really knows his stuff tho... probably been there for 20+ years... you've just got to know who to trust...
#2705 49 Sun Feb 23 08:20:13 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
Quite true - in even the most mundane job there are exemplary employees. It's just that in the case of Radio Shack as well as most other clerical positions it's not required. You and I can tell the difference, but the masses can't. No layman has any business complaining if they got rooked at Radio shack buying anything more complicated than a stuffed toy with a radio in it. You don't even have to be an expert to shop around and find better prices and higher quality. If it's a couple of 1K resistors or a DB-25 connector I'll go ahead and pay double what I would pay elsewhere just for the convenience. If it's an $1800 AT clone I could get elsewhere for $900, even if I was totally computer illiterate, I would be stupid not to check somebody else's prices before I bought. It takes some technical prowess to filter misinformation from a Radio Shack clerk. It takes no knowledge whatsoever to tell that $1800 is bigger than $900. The wierd part is the same people that will shop for a month for the best price on a couch or a TV set will walk into a Radio Shack and buy a computer or a stereo without checking any other place. One thing you can plan on though: Even the most knowledgable Radio Shack employee is not going to say to a customer "This machine is $1800. However, you can get the same thing at IMS for $900." Neither will the Cadillac salesman point out that the Toyota Camry will have better accelleration and require less service than his Seville, and at half the price, even though he probably drives a Camry to work.
#2708 49 Sun Feb 23 11:32:41 1992 Night Hawk @ The Abyss, Garland Tx.
Well Malcolm - if you want Honesty, you're living in the wrong country...
#2456 49 Sun Feb 23 12:30:06 1992 [Ever eaten an entire bag of] stderr [Silica-Gel? Try two!!!!!!!!] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
So, Chang, HAVE you seen the Opus SPARCard? A full sprac motherboard on a full length PC card.....
#2700 49 Sun Feb 23 16:11:09 1992 Night Hawk [the Iconoclast] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
If anybody wants to "Dump" their laptop, let me know!
#2706 49 Sun Feb 23 17:24:56 1992 [new power soul] Kevin C. Verde [new power generation] @ V'ger, Allen
I have this text file that describes the procedere of converting a 2400 baud modem to a 9600 baud modem. Does this conversion actually work? Has anyone tried it? or am I the only one who has seen it?
#2702 49 Sun Feb 23 20:32:14 1992 [Papa John's] Jon Lusky [Delivers the Perfect Pizza] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Chang: a NeXT ought to do everything you need that a Sun SS-I would do for about 1/3 (student price on the next) the price of the SS-1. I've never heard Sun clones... If you really want a Sun, I've seen used diskless Sun 3's for well under $1000. Just add a SCSI driveand you're set...
#2707 49 Sun Feb 23 20:52:13 1992 [Sysop without a BBS] Night Hawk @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Well if you had the right hardware, I SUPPOSE you could upgrade a 2400 to a 9600... maybe [help me out here techies!] Let me see the text file.
#2709 49 Mon Feb 24 03:33:55 1992 [It's a small world] Malcolm Petcher [after all] @ V'ger, Allen
I have that file, and I have my doubts.
#3315 49 Mon Feb 24 17:54:04 1992 Joe Isham @ The Lost Island, Dallas
Tracy: Try to convince your teacher to spend the extra $20 or so to go for a 2400 baud modem. Even though the speed difference isn't that great anymore in a world of 14.4's, the perceived difference in speed will be high. ...and I remember when we used the blazing speed of 110 baud to connect with our school's computer (singular)!
#3317 49 Mon Feb 24 17:58:43 1992 TOMCAT @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Tracy....I've got a modem and terminal that I started with and I'd be happy to part with both for $45.oo or I'd take about 25 or 30 for the modem. NEC 300/1200 works just fine....I'd take $40.00 for the both just to quit tripping over the terminal.....Call Voice 391-5297...I've also got an old Morrow with double floppy 5.25" I'd like to lose ...any offers? I've got software for it too. Anybody?
#3316 49 Tue Feb 25 01:27:55 1992 Chuck Thompson @ The Lost Island, Dallas
"Night Hawk" (whoever you are) --- A large majority of the folks I know in "this country" are honest and decent. I'd suggest you might review your circle of friends, your environment, and your own sense of morality. You might find one or more of them lacking. Cheers............................... c h u c k
#3318 49 Tue Feb 25 06:03:15 1992 [U.S.S. Inverness] Jonathan McGirr [(214) 245 - 9315] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Heck, I have an external 2400 I'd sell for $40...
#3319 49 Tue Feb 25 06:45:53 1992 David Taylor @ The Lost Island, Dallas
While "Night Hawk" is getting a ragging, allow me to ad my own: NH, I left a several messages for you on Ron's board in response to one you left. Log on the Frenzy and check your mail!
#2731 49 Tue Feb 25 12:27:10 1992 [Miracle Quip: Vinegar/egg] stderr [topping with an attitude.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
That's a joke file because you can't do that no matter if you wanted to or not.
#3321 49 Tue Feb 25 18:25:23 1992 [new power soul] Kevin C. Verde [new power generation] @ V'ger, Allen
Here is that conversion file that I spoke of. I'd really like to give it a try, but I'd like to here some feedback before I totally screw up my modem. BTW- I have an internal 1200 for sale. Works great, never have a problem. I'd part with it for $25.00.... Want it, Tracy File : 2496.txt - Upgrade a 24oo baud modem to a 96oo baud modem - ************************************************************************* How to upgrade your 24oo modem into a 96oo baud. (US Robotics compatible of course) Written By Death Bringer (CPT/Info-Net/IRA) 06/7/91 Be sure to turn off your modem before you begin. First of all, you need to go to your nearby electronics store, don't try to go to Radio Shack, their parts have their own model numbers and you'll have a hell of a time getting the parts you need. This upgrading of your modem will not work on old hayes modems, but they will work on any clone maker of modems (everex, practical peripherals, anchor, ati, intel, etc.) It will only work with modems with the Intel Chipset. This technique widens the band width by using a different chip that is similiar to the chip already in your modem. Parts Needed: 16550 UART L4313545 IC SC11020CN IC L8730183 IC First of all, check to see if your biggest chips are soldered or socketed. if they are soldered, you'll have to de-solder the chips before you begin. After you get that done, replace the 8250 UART with the 16550 UART. (16550 UARTs are required for 9600+ speeds). The other 1 or 2 chip(s) need(s) to replaced with INTEL L4313545 instead of the chip that is already there. If your modem has another socket or more, than you are in luck, you can purchase a chip from US Robotics, and make your modem faster than 9600. If you don't have the socket, than you can only go 9600. I'll get the chip number to you in the next edition and explain how and where to install it. I am working on a way for the people (like me) that do not have the extra socket in their modem to speed up the rates. I am working on a way to piggy back the chip. I'll get back to you. There should be a 22 pin chip on your modem also with a model number of SC11005CN or some where close to it. Replace it with the SC11020CN. Also, replace the L8630173 with the L8730183 chip. If you have any suggestions or questions, you can locate me through Compuserve USER ID 74702,97524 *****OPTIONAL, LAP-M Error correction***** Adding error correction is rather simple. For this these parts are necessary: Potentiometer. This is a 5k audio taper variable resistor. Capacitor. Any non-polarized 1.0 to 1.5 uf cap should do. 100 ohm resistor - quarter or half watt. Wire Solder, soldering iron, etc. Solder one end of the capacitor to PIN 1 of the phone line input jack |-------------------| | \ line in :: | \ phone in :: |-----------||||||||| pin 1^ If your modem is external, the diagram looks like this. |------------------| | /| | ||RS-232 port | \| :: | |-|line in :: | |-| pin 1^ | |-|phone in | |-| |------------------| This should be on the back of the modem. Pin one should the farthest on the bottom left. Solder the other end of the capacitor to the center lug of the potentiometer (there are three lugs on this critter). Solder one end of the resistor to the PIN 4 of the line input jack. Solder the other end of the resistor to either one of the remaining outside lugs of the potentiometer. Doesn't matter which one. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADDITION TO ORIGNAL FILE - 6/15/91 Bill McCauley & Dark Spyre/Dr. Brains/Ryan Schwartz/Lamer/Loser First, a personal recomendation. _THIS WORKS!!!_ I have been plagued with 2400 baud for some time. I hate waiting for the transfer to finish so that i can use the phone. Threw the gismo together in about 10 or 15 minutes, took another five to adjust the pot for best results on my worst conection, and guess what? No more slow connections! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Have Fun! I am working on cheap ways to install V.32/V.42bis on your modified modem *************************Updated, 6/16/91******************************** Installing V.42bis: 1) You will need to purchase a 27C512 ROM chip. 2) You will need to purchase a Sony CXK58257P-12L (or equivalent) Ram chip. 3) Install the Rom in the Supervisor (SUP) socket. 4) Install the Ram in the Ram socket. 5) Make up two 3 pin jumpers for P9 and P10 with pins 1 and 2 jumpered on one and pins 2 and 3 jumpered on the other. Connect the vacant pin 1 on the one to the vacant pin 3 on the other with a jumper wire. 6) Remove the jumpers on P9 and P10. 7) Install the jumper with pins 1 and 2 connected together on P9. 8) Connect the jumper with pins 2 and 3 connected together on P10. DeathBringer '91 ---- Sorry about the long file, but I have to know if this works!!!
#2826 49 Wed Feb 26 01:01:49 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
For Sale: <This is the "For Sale" room, isn't it?> I have a little laptop that is battery (or plug-in) powered. It has a LCD screen that folds out and a 3 1/2" floppy drive. It has a word processor, spreadsheet, and term program in ROM and a built-in modem. Now don't get your hopes up too much. It only has 64k RAM and you can't do that much. You could use it for BBSing while you travel or use it to write a book. But you really can't run any standard programs. I have docs and even a battery-powered printer that goes with it. All for a paltry $50. (Voice # is 206-754-3953.)
#3320 49 Wed Feb 26 02:19:48 1992 rusty @ Salamandria, Dallas
radio shack's speakers are OEM and some/most are made by BOSE... there...
#3322 49 Wed Feb 26 05:36:41 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Chuck Thompson>>>>> ---- (whoever you are) say what you want about Night Hawk, but cast NOT shadow on circumstantial others of whom you know NOT.
#3323 49 Wed Feb 26 06:38:12 1992 David I. Ramos @ V'ger, Allen
I'm interested in getting started in packet radio which requires a radio, and a TNC. Does anybody have any information on these items or know anything of what it might cost?
#2867 49 Wed Feb 26 06:59:49 1992 [Clear the roads...] Captain James T Kirk [Audin's in trafic safty...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
weird...
#2868 49 Wed Feb 26 07:00:08 1992 [Clear the roads...] Captain James T Kirk [Audin's in trafic safty...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Lookin for a CHEEP 286 motherboard... like 50-70 bucks...
#2983 49 Wed Feb 26 14:00:08 1992 [Miracle Quip: Vinegar/egg] stderr [topping with an attitude.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
I TOLD you you could have the 286-12 motherboard for $59, Audin.
#2984 49 Wed Feb 26 15:15:00 1992 [May fortune favor] Blade Runner [the foolish.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
stderr> I know someone who might be interested in that offer.... Hero at Paradise might be interested in buying it...
#3325 49 Wed Feb 26 16:18:09 1992 [The SYSOP] Dennis Recla @ The Lost Island, Dallas
David.... Packet Radio also requires a HAM Radio License. The TNC units are in the range of $75 to $300 depending upon how well it works, and the complexity of the software that works with it. One in the $150 range will probably do all you need. The expensive ones also handle things like Radio Teletype. The radio is a 2 meter tranceiver, they can vary in price from $100 used for an old crystal controlled unit to $250 used for a fancy one. Most are designed for Automobile installations so you will probably have to provide some source of 12 volt power. New radios are about double the above prices. Check your local HAM radio store for new and used radios. License exams are given regularly by the various HAM clubs in the Dallas area, and study guides are available. Check the magazine rack for 73 and CQ magazine, they have several ads for TNC's and radio equipment. For specific magazines, again check the local HAM radio store. Wholesale Electronics at Ross and Central Expway has a good selection. There is some 10 meter packet activity, but not near as much as on 2 meters. But if you are a good technician, you could convert an old CB radio to use on 10 meters for packet. Good Luck
#3324 49 Wed Feb 26 18:15:11 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
TNC's run from used cheap ones for $100 to exxpensive new ones for $300-400. a vhf 2-way is about $200-600. try the sidewalk sale, if you're in Dallas
#2985 49 Wed Feb 26 18:26:25 1992 [Clear the roads...] Captain James T Kirk [Audin's in trafic safty...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Yea, at the time i wasen't really looking... i'll be able to afford one in 2 monts, i think...
#2975 49 Wed Feb 26 20:55:08 1992 [Brand X] Scorpion [Title/Surname]
Still????
#2986 49 Wed Feb 26 21:10:59 1992 [Miracle Quip: Vinegar/egg] stderr [topping with an attitude.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
I got that 386SX going, Audin. It has a text only display.... Do you want to use it for awhile and make Dragcit run on it?
#2987 49 Wed Feb 26 21:58:02 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
I could use a 386sx mainboard. Any of those for sale?
#2988 49 Wed Feb 26 22:40:45 1992 [Miracle Quip: Vinegar/egg] stderr [topping with an attitude.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
well, yea, but Audin is going to get Dragcit working on it first. That is if I can convince him of it's ultimate importance to Mankind.
#2989 49 Thu Feb 27 00:15:00 1992 [May fortune favor] Blade Runner [the foolish.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Do it, do it, do it!! The 386 would speed things up alot Audin...
#2990 49 Thu Feb 27 00:15:16 1992 [May fortune favor] Blade Runner [the foolish.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
borrow it I mean...
#3064 49 Thu Feb 27 07:01:02 1992 [Clear the roads...] Captain James T Kirk [Audin's in trafic safty...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Shure, I'll do it... Hmm, i think i can set it on the table over there....
#3055 49 Thu Feb 27 08:06:04 1992 Spur
steve, that sounds like a pretty good deal there... if only i had a use for a laptop... oh well.
#3143 49 Thu Feb 27 22:21:59 1992 [May fortune favor] Blade Runner [the foolish.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
that would be cool. a bit of an improvement...
#3144 49 Thu Feb 27 23:16:34 1992 [Miracle Quip: Vinegar/egg] stderr [topping with an attitude.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
It must not be a table I can see cause these are all covered with stuff....
#3326 49 Fri Feb 28 06:51:35 1992 [Watch out for that] Merskeeter [[[[[[[[[[DIVEBOMBERS]]]]]]]]]] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Anybody know of an Apple Serial Interface, that would fit in a IIe or II+? I can trade you a Z-80 (CP/M) card, or maybe some cash.
#3327 49 Fri Feb 28 10:04:14 1992 [May fortune favor] Blade Runner [the foolish.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
rusty> The radio shack stuff still doesn't measure up. Bose might make some of the speakers but so.... There are many better than Bose. Besides, Ford originally made the Pantera and then they made the Pinto.... may be a case of the same thing...
#3328 49 Fri Feb 28 10:19:08 1992 [Miracle Quip: Vinegar/egg] stderr [topping with an attitude.] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
And Hayes makes the modems that Plodigy sells and....
#726 49 Thu May 21 19:36:29 1992 [All good people] LaDzhaRi [are asleep and dreaming] @ Cyberlink, Olympia, WA
radio shit tends to have okay prices sometimes when their stuff goes on an exteme sale.
For Sale/Trade> _