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#416 55 Sun Jan 19 03:29:56 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Nashville's "Who Am I" BBS, running Fredcit, is back on line again and netting as of about 30 minutes ago. He will be bringing in another 3 Fredcit boards in the Nashville area to the net with him. Sysop goes by the name of "Don't Ask"... catchy. A hearty hello and welcome back!
#417 55 Sun Jan 19 06:42:53 1992 [Help Stamp Out] Don't Ask [Rampant Vegetables] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Who Am I BBS in Nashville, TN is now on the net. Morning, folks! WAI is netting with MF.
#419 55 Sun Jan 19 07:47:45 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
A new FredCit comes online! Xanthippe`s (214)-924-1725 Coming soon to a networked room near you...
#435 55 Sun Jan 19 10:03:35 1992 [Big Hairy Cat] Pat Jankowiak [From the Zone!] @ Xanthippe's, Dallas
Is this room now found for the CHZ??? Vee zshall zeee.
#418 55 Sun Jan 19 15:27:17 1992 [Rainbow's End Sysop] Lady Tephra @ Rainbow's End, Dallas
Joe Carrasquilla: Chuck's Folly is down and from the looks of will probably stay that way. Don't know about Master Mind. Did hear that Mason-Dixon Line is coming back but probably with a new system name; he needed HD repair which often takes longer to pay for then it does to get done. Don't know where he'll be netting for sure just yet.
#428 55 Mon Jan 20 12:54:06 1992 [Help Stamp Out] Don't Ask [Rampant Vegetables] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Coming soon from Nashville through Who Am I is a board called "The Acid Test" running FredCit. Should be up and netting within the next week and a half! Will be adding 2 more boards afterwards, looks like. The net is expanding, folks!
#420 55 Mon Jan 20 23:53:01 1992 [<[#]@*=-] Waxed [-=*@[#]>] @ Slumberland, Seattle, US 206 283-6771
Welcome, Nashville!
#421 55 Tue Jan 21 11:18:34 1992 [Once again] Saphyre [has a new # 725-5512] @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon, Blue Station
Shades will be netting with that same node in Georgia.....
#427 55 Tue Jan 21 13:20:13 1992 Chuck Knight [Chuck's Folly SysOp] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
OK, Lady Tephra is right...until I figure out what's going on with the software (will NOT configure on my system for some reason) Chuck's Folly is down for good. DRAT! Master Mind is now running UNIX, rather than FredCit...
#422 55 Tue Jan 21 21:09:14 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
Thank you Lady Tephra in Dallas. I know the pain and anguish of hard disk failures and do sympathize completely. Hey Saph! *smooch* how ya been? So who is this in Georgia? Is it the Vixen herself or is it Moma Belle? :)
#424 55 Wed Jan 22 07:37:05 1992 She-Zog @ Fantasia UnLtd., North Seattle Hell
Howdy Nashville !!
#423 55 Wed Jan 22 08:44:12 1992 Livia @ Amber, Seattle, US WA 206 525 1059
I would assume it's Pretty Eyes.
#425 55 Wed Jan 22 19:55:49 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
James T. Kirk... if you want to net the Starfleet International room, ask Steve Baxter to request it from Memory Alpha, and I'll send it to him, to net to you... :) Plus other Star Trek rooms.
#426 55 Wed Jan 22 20:47:56 1992 [Once again] Saphyre [has a new # 725-5512] @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon, Blue Station
It is the Vixen herself
#429 55 Thu Jan 23 12:32:31 1992 Shane Johnson @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
Maybe we should get a copy of Acit to that board... :)
#430 55 Thu Jan 23 13:21:35 1992 Livia @ Amber, Seattle, US WA 206 525 1059
A board that wants to call itself The Acid Test should really be running ACit. Want a copy? :)
#436 55 Thu Jan 23 14:32:24 1992 [When in doubt,] Don't Ask [for fruitcake.] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Thanks, waxed and She-Zog! Good to be here.
#434 55 Thu Jan 23 22:06:17 1992 [GOO BAD ACK NAK SYN] Mad Hatchet [is a sign of bad times.] @ Sanitarium North, Lynnwood
Ah, but wars are so much fun....... :)
#431 55 Fri Jan 24 09:34:18 1992 Captain James T Kirk @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Mem Alpha has Star Trek rooms??? Coooool... I'll ask him to grab those. thanks, heather!
#433 55 Fri Jan 24 10:24:23 1992 Fred @ Fred's Toy, Bothell
Let's not start using this room for 'software wars' again, please! I can see every programmer on the net getting into this one...
#432 55 Sat Jan 25 00:55:22 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Have you tried the command line ctdl -help or ctdl -? It was something like that to get all the command line options.
#437 55 Sat Jan 25 19:08:54 1992 [Voyage of the] Flying Wombat @ Age of Aquarius, Seattle, WA
Fred: I know what you mean. fortunately, not every programmer >is< going to get into it.. who has time and energy to waste, anyhow? if people want to start a netted room and call it "Software Wars," that'd be fine with me. or they could always use Sysop Forum.. :)
#438 55 Sun Jan 26 16:56:36 1992 Solaufein Rhomduil @ Gate Keeper's Realm, Seattle
I have tried to run NCIT as a door, but it won't do it for callers, just for console peoples.
#467 55 Sun Jan 26 21:09:35 1992 Chuck Knight @ Xanthippe's, Dallas
Hey, send down a copy of nightcit and acit...I'm gathering all the Cit derivitives I can get my hands on... You can QNet to Dallas to Mystic Frenzy, with Ron's permission, of course...
#466 55 Mon Jan 27 04:46:57 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Ok, here's a new board to add to your ROUTE.CIT files: "Xanthippe's" alias "XPP" Route through CHZ. Sysop: Yram Nna Hturac (214) 942-1725
#443 55 Mon Jan 27 15:13:35 1992 [When in doubt,] Don't Ask [for fruitcake.] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Livia: ACit? Sure, tell me where to pick it up and I'll take a peek at it... ;>
#468 55 Mon Jan 27 16:43:34 1992 [Big Hairy Cat] Pat Jankowiak [From the Zone!] @ Xanthippe's, Dallas
CHZ is down for now till i get a new modem and keyboard. ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,<><><<<><<<<<<><><><<<><<<<>,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,???
#440 55 Tue Jan 28 02:29:53 1992 [Perceive...] Jeremiah Johnson [...] @ The Log Cabin, Seattle, WA
LaDzhaRi: OK, I'll pass that on - if you send mail to GridMaker @ The Log Cabin, it gets passed on (through forwarding to account at other node.) I hope you have a route to here! Netgrid is in work, I'm editing it at work while idle, next listing by next weekend. Guaranteed obsolete before it's posted :-)
#441 55 Tue Jan 28 22:22:24 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
What do you expect from a board named after the information planet in Star Trek??? :) I gots lots of ST rooms!
#442 55 Wed Jan 29 05:49:30 1992 She-Zog @ Fantasia UnLtd., North Seattle Hell
Cat Hair Zone.... are you receiving?
#444 55 Wed Jan 29 11:35:49 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
Netgridmaker, Memory Alpha is now netting with Applegrove. :)
#439 55 Wed Jan 29 15:39:28 1992 [4-D...] Captain James T Kirk [Coooooooooool...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Solaufein> thats kinda weird... I CAN'T use it locally... only remote users can...
#448 55 Wed Jan 29 19:47:39 1992 Kid Charlemagne @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon
(Not the Real) Graceland is on the net, connecting to Shades and i believe Milliways. Right now it's local, but it will soon move to atlanta GA. (yeah, i know, the region is "memphis". kind of a screw-up, kind of a twit region....)
#459 55 Thu Jan 30 08:40:25 1992 The Maven @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon, Blue Station
Otto, Fred has already been notified about that particular bug as of a bit ago.
#450 55 Thu Jan 30 10:48:51 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
Otto, if you write protect certain cit files, it's going to crash anyways.
#445 55 Thu Jan 30 11:40:33 1992 Livia @ Amber, Bellevue, US WA 206 643 9643
ACit is available right here on Amber, amazingly enough. :) You want the file UPDATE.ZIP, which is in the room 'The ACit Test', in the Ghostwheel hallway. The number is 206-643-9643.
#469 55 Thu Jan 30 14:01:30 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Were back!
#447 55 Thu Jan 30 16:23:00 1992 Fred @ Fred's Toy, Bothell
Fred's Toy just added the "Job Search" room. Who wants to net it?
#470 55 Fri Jan 31 03:18:48 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Bummer, pat...
#471 55 Fri Jan 31 05:58:15 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
Cat Hair Zone is Recieving, She-Zog @ fantasia Unltd.!
#451 55 Fri Jan 31 08:06:03 1992 Fred @ Fred's Toy, Bothell
On of the best solutions to people attacking your command.com; put it someplace other then C:\COMMAND.COM or C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM, and set COMSPEC in your CONFIG.SYS to point to it... that's what I do :)
#452 55 Fri Jan 31 11:19:40 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
Fred, I have it as "Job Line" on my board, but you guys can call it what ever you want though :) I'll need a net test from every region that has pulled the room so that I can twix those areas for jobs.
#453 55 Fri Jan 31 15:05:47 1992 She-Zog @ Fantasia UnLtd., North Seattle Hell
We'll add 'Job Search' to the rooms we net with you Fred.
#446 55 Fri Jan 31 15:09:52 1992 [Clear the roads...] Captain James T Kirk [Audin's in trafic safty...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Heather, Have i been Verifyed on your board yet? (I dont wanna waist the money to call, only to find that i can't login....)
#455 55 Fri Jan 31 17:08:25 1992 TaleTeller @ The NeverMind, Disputed
I think you should go into details. Did you have a directory room pointing at your root directory?
#456 55 Fri Jan 31 20:24:54 1992 Mark Willis @ The Log Cabin, Seattle, WA
Sneaky trick to slow people down on that - have autoexec.bat unzip a backup copy of command,com, then compare the two - if not exactly alike, have the program yell at you! (Erase the backup copy if the compare works OK! :-) That can help... If you code it right, you can even rewrite command.com & then reboot if they're different, but ya better know what you're doing there...
#462 55 Fri Jan 31 21:30:14 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
James T Kirk... that's why I said you had access, you're verified. :)
#457 55 Fri Jan 31 22:37:54 1992 [star-wanderer] Zen master [with deep-brown eyes] @ The Log Cabin, Seattle, WA
I'd speculate that it's safe to make FCIT.EXE read-only.. and that many Citadels merely need to be in the DOS Path somewhere in order to run.
#458 55 Sat Feb 1 01:54:53 1992 San San @ PhotoSynthesis, Seattle, US WA 206 323 2433
I'd like to pick up "Job Search" please. If it nets to Texas let's just forget it, ok? JUST kidding, really... :)
#472 55 Sat Feb 1 03:38:36 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Mason Dixon Line is now up and running again as "Hotel Coral Essex"... please replace all node info for MD to now read HCE....
#473 55 Sat Feb 1 03:38:52 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
Oh, BTW, HCE routes through MF...
#460 55 Sat Feb 1 07:56:46 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
O.K. San San, I've added it to our node. Again, it is called "Job Line" on my board. I'll make it "Job Search" on yours.
#461 55 Sat Feb 1 09:49:30 1992 The Great Zod @ Outer Limits, (206)547-4227
Better than zipping it, put it in an obscure directory, or copy it to a wierd name in the root dir. One more cron event :) COMP C:\COMMAND.COM C:\BIZZARE.OVL IF ERRORLEVEL > 0 THEN COPY C:\BIZZARE.OVL C:\COMMAND.COM EXIT Might take a whole minute..
#474 55 Sat Feb 1 11:27:48 1992 [Once again] Saphyre [has a new # 725-5512] @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon, Blue Station
Shades also carries it as JOBLINE (one word) so anyone who wants to pick it up here can.
#463 55 Sat Feb 1 14:11:00 1992 Fred @ Fred's Toy, Bothell
Oh, that one. Thanks for telling me that Maven, the fix I was talking about is in 41x now.
#464 55 Sat Feb 1 14:15:49 1992 Fred @ Fred's Toy, Bothell
OK, that's Job Search for PS & Fant, and Job Line for CB.... right? Zen, you're right. Write protect on the FCIT.EXE (*.EXE for my stuff actually) should work.
#465 55 Sat Feb 1 14:20:08 1992 Fred @ Fred's Toy, Bothell
That reminds me, Cave Bear, we have to net... call & make a node account.
#489 55 Sat Feb 1 21:07:21 1992 [Hotel Coral Essex Sysop] Confederate Yankee [The General Manager] @ Hotel Coral Essex, Irving/Dallas
Hotel Coral Essex (a.k.a. Former Mason-Dixon Line) is up and running NETGRIDMAKER...for you information I net with the following boards... Rainbow's End Mystic Frenzy Salamandria If you need more information, just holler!!!! later...
#476 55 Sun Feb 2 07:18:42 1992 TaleTeller @ The NeverMind, Disputed
Congratulate me, I've updated something in my ROUTE.CIT. Hotel Coral Essex it is.
#454 55 Sun Feb 2 08:05:02 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Fred> Please add Job Search in the nodes.cit called the same on my end.
#475 55 Sun Feb 2 08:25:27 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
Heather, just curious. I called your board a couple of times and was never verified, you didn't give me access and you definately didn't call. Was this an oversight or did you feel I was not not welcomed? I thought it was a pity.
#483 55 Sun Feb 2 14:36:22 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
Joe, it was definitely an oversight. I don't usually call (very rarely), give me 48 hours to verify you (turn off the verify bit), and you'll have access to most of the board. ;)
#482 55 Sun Feb 2 17:03:19 1992 Cave Bear @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
Thanks Saph, I'll make the correction on my nodes.cit. :)
#477 55 Sun Feb 2 17:37:44 1992 [Voyage of the] Flying Wombat @ DataFlux, Seattle, WA
TT: congratulations. :)
#487 55 Sun Feb 2 18:05:04 1992 Doctor Dee @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon, Blue Station
GridMaker- Thee Crossroads is running Dragcit, not Fredcit.
#478 55 Mon Feb 3 02:09:24 1992 [.] GridMaker [.] @ The Log Cabin, Seattle, WA
Nodelist as of 1992 0203. List for group Washington AC Alpha Complex F Tukwila US/WA/206/246-0559 ACME ACME BBS d Beautiful Day Island US/WA/206/565-0637 AG Applegrove F Greenlake US/WA/206/523-5087 AI Alteredimages. e Bothell US/WA/206/820-1468 AMB Amber a Seattle US/WA/206/643-9643 ANT The Ant Hill i WA US/WA/206/367-8726 AQU Age of Aquarius f Seattle US/WA/206/Private AST Astral Plane d Renton US/WA/206/852-2956 AV Aldur's Vale F Seattle US/WA/206/771-9396 BA Blazing Anthropus m Tacoma US/WA/206/539-0908 BHS BHS Technical BBS F Seattle US/WA/206/635-9448 (&) BLS The Blue Light Special n Beautiful Tacoma US/WA/206/588-3973 BOB Bob's Place A Seattle US/WA/206/___-____ BRIG Brigadoon s Seattle US/WA/206/285-8767 (&) BT Big Toy F Bothell US/WA/206/Private C51 Challenger 51-L t Space US/WA/206/827-0346 CA Chateau Aspen F Burien US/WA/206/246-4011 CAT The Catacombs d Kent, Washington US/WA/206/631-7620 CBL Cave Bear's Laire t Kent US/WA/206/630-9863 CC Columbia Crest BBS d Olympia US/WA/206/786-9248 CON Creative Concepts g Federal Way US/WA/206/433-8084 CROW 'Crow's nest F Spanaway US/WA/206/535-3697 CSA The Come Sail Away BBS d Tacoma US/WA/206/964-0580 CU Castle Undread d Kent US/WA/206/852-5275 (&) CYB CyberLink C Olympia US/WA/206/866-3512 DF DataFlux c Detailspace US/WA/206/637-8950 DOOM Doomed to Failure F Jase's House US/WA/206/759-5960 DRE Dreamscape d The Far Side US/WA/206/631-1159 DV Destination: Void F Kent US/WA/206/854-5727 FAN Fantasia UnLtd. F North Seattle Hell US/WA/206/672-2513 FRED Fred's Toy t Bothell US/WA/206/Private FREE _Freedialog i WA US/WA/206/365-4605 (&) FTPT Footprint F Lynnwood, WA US/WA/206/743-5574 GKR Gate Keeper's Realm F Seattle US/WA/206/450-0427 GRCC GRCC BBS d Auburn US/WA/206/464-6133,,52 GS2 Golden Sub II d Tacoma US/WA/206/536-3878 GSP Greenspace t Seattle US/WA/206/Private GTR Gateway To Reality F Seattle US/WA/206/525-3602 (&) HAL HAL 1000 i WA US/WA/206/884-4615 HAZ Hazzard County r Seattle US/WA/206/Private (&) IE Isles of Ether F Seattle US/WA/206/725-1048 (&) INC Incubus BBS d Ellensburg US/WA/509/962-3584 (&) INF The INFO Board i WA US/WA/206/759-4391 IT InfoNet TechSupport t Seattle Area US/WA/206/Private LPC Love Pretty Colors A Seattle US/WA/206/525-3683 LT Little Toy F Bothell US/WA/206/Private MAD The Madhouse t Close to the Edge US/WA/206/745-3998 MAV The Mavenry m The Basement US/WA/206/Portable MAY Mayday 1 d (206)548-9447 US/WA/206/548-9447 MEM Memory Alpha d Kent US/WA/206/859-6200 MEM1 Memory Prime d Kent US/WA/206/859-6200 (&) MEN Menzoberrancheese T Walcheeseisnacht US/WA/206/227-8947 (&) MIC Micros Place c Bellevue US/WA/206/Private MIL Milliways a Bainbridge Island US/WA/206/842-2419 MOC Mocha d Seattle US/WA/206/522-3684 MR Mystic Realm F Seattle US/WA/206/228-3996 (&) NET NetGridMaker G Seattle US/WA/206/362-5188 NTRG (Not the Real) Graceland a Memphis US/WA/206/___-____ OS The Other Side d The Other Plane US/WA/206/228-3996 OUT Outer Limits d (206)782-3289 US/WA/206/547-4227 PAR Paradise d Tacoma US/WA/206/984-7948 PLAY The Playpen g Seattle US/WA/206/869-5623 (&) POD The Paths of Destiny g Seattle US/WA/206/637-0355 (&) PS PhotoSynthesis d Seattle US/WA/206/323-2433 PYC PsychoCit p Mountlake Terrace US/WA/206/775-9334 RBO Roboslug i WA US/WA/206/367-1150 (&) ROTJ Realm of the Jinks F Seattle Area US/WA/206/763-6425 (&) RTE Road to Emmaus C Bellingham US/WA/206/647-0618 SFA Star Fleet Academy d Olympia? US/WA/206/459-2947 SI StarShip Inconnu t Seattle US/WA/206/Private SILK Silk's Enterprise F ? US/WA/206/246-6951 (&) SKY Skyline g Edmonds US/WA/206/Private SLD Slumberland T Seattle US/WA/206/283-6771 SOB Shades of Blue m Seattle US/WA/206/725-5512 STP Stranger Than Paradise m Old Bohemia US/WA/206/323-2433 SUN The Sunset Grill r (Shades of Blue) US/WA/206/725-5512 (&) TB The Bilge g South Seattle Hell US/WA/206/760-9861 TBD The Bear's Den f Bellevue US/WA/206/___-____ TC The Cove F Driftwood, WA US/WA/206/652-0829 TCD The Crystal Dragon a Bellevue US/WA/206/641-7801 TCR Thee Crossroads F Seattle US/WA/206/545-4032 (&) TLC The Log Cabin c Seattle US/WA/206/637-8912 TMS The Metal Shop d Renton US/WA/206/___-____ (&) TNC The New Connectivity F Seattle US/WA/206/___-____ (&) TNM The Nevermind F Disputed US/WA/206/632-5036 TNS The NightShift r Seattle US/WA/206/364-9088 (&) TNZ The Neutral Zone BBS d Seattle, WA US/WA/206/527-9049 (&) TP Transfer Point BBS d Seattle US/WA/206/Private (&) TR The Raft a Seattle US/WA/206/363-4193 TT TurboTech t Seattle US/WA/206/362-6828 TT2 TurboTech II t Seattle US/WA/206/362-6828 (&) TV The Void d Seattle US/WA/206/Private TWN The Wrong Number d Tacoma US/WA/206/759-6102 VDC Venom's Deadly Caverns F Seattle US/WA/206/364-7396 (&) WOW WOW! Magazine T Seattle US/WA/206/283-6771 (&) XAN Xanadu i WA US/WA/206/828-4784 YM YOUR MOM! d Tacoma US/WA/206/584-2853 YOUR Your BBS name here F Tacoma US/WA/206/564-5303 (&) (&) Non-netting node.
#479 55 Mon Feb 3 02:11:36 1992 [.] GridMaker [.] @ The Log Cabin, Seattle, WA
List for group Not Washington AA Acme Acres F Sacramento US/CA/916/___-____ ABY The Abyss d Garland Tx. US/TX/214/___-____ ARR Array t ? US/TX/512/___-____ BLUE Blue Moon t Dallas US/TN/615/834-5049 (&) BTD Brother to Dragons F NashVegas US/TN/615/834-5090 (&) CDC CS Data Central t DC US/VA/703/___-____ CEN Centauri's Place C Dublin US/CA/510/829-2743 CHZ Cat hair Zone F Dallas US/TX/214/374-6339 COFF Coffey Computer Center t Wyoming US/WY/307/___-____ CS Crosstime Saloon t Dallas US/TX/214/330-1725 CZ Castle Zolarium t Dallas, Texas US/TX/214/234-1476 DH Dwidian's Habitat C Pleasanton US/CA/510/417-0781 EMP Empire F Washington, D.C. US/DC/202/842-2661 GWN Great White North i Alaska US/AK/907/___-____ HC HarDCore BBS F DC US/MD/301/933-6571 HNR Hit 'n' Run! F Sacramento CA US/CA/916/721-9192 INT Internet t Gateway US/TX/214/Public LR Locksley's Refuge C Pleasanton US/CA/510/462-8105 MD Moondancer's Toy C Earth?? US/CA/510/829-2743 MDL Mason-Dixon Line t Irving/Dallas US/TX/214/399-0364 MF Mystic Frenzy t Cedar Hill, Texas US/TX/214/293-0844 MOS Mosquito Coast t DC US/VA/703/255-2908 RE Rainbow's End t Dallas US/TX/214/264-3863 SAL Salamandria t Dallas US/TX/214/238-5539 SDF SDF-3 C Pleasanton US/CA/510/829-2743 SPC 5-Space i OR US/OR/503/___-____ TAT The Acid Test F Nashville US/TN/615/___-____ TDR The Dream Realm t Lewisville, Tx US/TX/512/Private TE The Enterprise C Space US/CA/510/829-2743 TLI The Lost Island t Dallas US/TX/214/276-7499 TYC Tychoid Monolith F Tennessee? US/TN/615/___-____ VGR V'ger t Allen US/TX/214/727-8056 WHO Who Am I F Nashville US/TN/615/833-5322 X Xanthippe's F Dallas US/TX/214/924-1725 (&) Non-netting node. Legal software types are: a ACit A Atlas C CenCit c Co-Op Cit d DragCit e Elegia f FrogCit F FredCit g GremCit G GridMaker i IronHenge m MavenCit n NightCit p PsychoCit r RoscoeCit s StoneHenge t TurboCit T TwitCit
#480 55 Mon Feb 3 02:14:54 1992 [.] GridMaker [.] @ The Log Cabin, Seattle, WA
Net Grid as of 1992 0203. Grid for group Washington |A A A B|B C C C|C C D F|F G G I|M M M M|M O P P|P P S S|S T T T|T T| |M Q V A|T 5 A B|C R O R|T S S T|A A E I|O U A G|S Y K L|O B L N|R T| |B U | 1 L| O O E|P 2 P |D Y M L|C T R R| C Y D|B C M| | | | | W M D|T | | | | | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ AMB |= | | d| | d| |d d| d d|d | AQU | = d | | | | |d | | q d| | AV | d = | | | | | | d ? |d d | | BA | _ _ _=| _ _ _ | _?_?_ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _?_ | _ _ _ |?_ _ _ | _ | BT | |= | q|q | | | | d| | C51 | | = | d| | d | | | | q| CA | | = ?| | | ? | d | |d | | CBL | _ _ _ | _ _?_=| _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ |?_ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ | CC | | |= d| 6 d| 6 |5 | | | | CROW| ?| | = ? | | |? | | | | DOOM| ?| | ? = | | | | | | | FRED|d_ _ _ |q_d_ _ |d_ _ _=|q_ _d_ |d_ _ _ |d_ _ _ |q_ _ _ |d_ _q_d| _q| FTPT| |q | q|= | | | |d q d| | GS2 | | |6 | = | 5 | 5| | | | GSP | | | d| = | | d | | d | q| IT | _ _ _ | _ _ _ |d_ _ _ | _ _ _=| _ _d_ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _q| MAD | | | d| |= | | d | q d| q| MAY | | ? | | | = | d | |d | | MEM | | d |6 | 5 d| = | 5|5 | d| | MIL |d_ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _=| _ _ _ |d_ _d_d| _ _ _ | _ | MOC | d | |5 ? d| | |= |d | d d| | OUT | | d | | d | d | = |d |? d| | PAR | ?| | | | | = |? ?| | | PGR | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _5_ _ | _ _5_ | _ _ _=|5_ _ _ | _ _ _d| _ | PS |d | ?| q| | 5 d|d d ? 5|= d|5 d |q | PYC | d | | | |d | | = |d q | | SKY | ? | | | | d| | = | 6 | | SLD |d_ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _ _ _d| _ _?_ |d_ _ _=|d_?_d_ | _ | SOB | d ?| d | d|d | d | ? |5 d d|= d d| | TB | | | | | | | 6 ?|d = |q | TLC |d q d | | q|q d |q |d |d q d| = d|q | TNM |d_d_ _ |d_ _ _ | _ _ _d|d_ _ _ |d_ _d_ |d_d_ _d| _ _ _ |d_ _d_=|d_ | TR |d | | | | | |q | q q d|= | TT | | q | q| q q|q | | | | =| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ AC nets with FRED (d) ACME nets with CROW (?) AG nets with AV (d) MAY (d) SOB (d) AI nets with TNM (d) ANT nets with HAL (h) XAN (h) AST nets with GRCC (?) MEM (d) TNM (d) BLS nets with PAR (?) BOB nets with LPC (?) CAT nets with CBL (?) CON nets with MIL (d) SKY (d) TLC (d) CSA nets with DOOM (?) CYB nets with CC (d) DF nets with TLC (d) DRE nets with CBL (?) DV nets with MEM (d) OS (?) FAN nets with FRED (d) SOB (d) STP (?) GKR nets with MIC (d) GRCC nets with AST (?) GS2 (?) MOC (?) HAL nets with ANT (h) INF (h) INF nets with HAL (h) LPC nets with AMB (?) BA (?) BOB (?) LT nets with BT (q) MAV nets with SOB (5) MIC nets with AQU (d) GKR (d) NET nets with TLC (q) NTRG nets with MIL (d) OS nets with DV (?) MIL (?) RTE nets with PAR (?) TLC (d) SFA nets with CC (d) SI nets with MEM (d) TT (q) STP nets with FAN (?) SOB (d) TBD nets with AQU (d) TLC (d) TC nets with MAD (?) TCD nets with OUT (d) TLC (d) TR (d) TV nets with C51 (d) TWN nets with BA (?) XAN nets with ANT (h) TLC (B) YM nets with DOOM (?) Grid for group Not Washington |C C C C|C D H L|M M M R|S T V W| |D E H S|Z H N R|D F O E|A D G H| |C N Z | R |L S |L R R O| | | | | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ CDC |= | | q | | CEN | = | d d| | | CHZ | = | | d|d d | CS | _ _ _=|d_ _ _ | _d_ _ | _ _ _ | CZ | d|= | d | | DH | d | = d| | | HNR | | = | | | LR | _d_ _ | _d_ _=| _ _ _ | _ _ _ | MDL | | |= q d| | MF | d|d |q = q|q d q| MOS |q | | = | | RE | _ _d_ | _ _ _ |d_q_ _=| _ _ _ | SAL | d | | q |= q d | TDR | | | d |q = | VGR | d | | |d = | WHO | _ _ _ | _ _ _ | _q_ _ | _ _ _=| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ AA nets with HNR (d) ABY nets with CHZ (d) EMP nets with MOS (?) HC nets with MOS (q) INT nets with SAL (B) MD nets with CEN (l) SDF nets with CEN (l) TAT nets with WHO (?) TE nets with CEN (l) TLI nets with MF (q) TYC nets with MOS (q) Grid for group Interconnects |A C C C|F G I M|M S T T|X| |N C D E|R S T F|O A R T|A| |T C N|E P |S L |N| | |D | | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ANT |= | | |h| CC | = d|d d | | | CDC | = | |q q| | CEN | _d_ _=|q_ _ _ | _ _ _ | | FRED| d q|= d q|q q q| | GSP | |d = |q q| | IT | d | = q| q| | MF | _ _ _ |q_ _q_=| _q_ _q| | MOS | q |q q |= q| | SAL | |q q| = q| | TR | | | = | | TT | _ _q_ |q_q_q_q|q_q_ _=| | XAN |h | | |=| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ARR nets with TT (d) COFF nets with TT (d) GWN nets with XAN (h) SPC nets with ANT (h) X nets with TR (?) Legal Net types are: d Net 1.0 5 Net 1.5 6 Net 1.6 2 Net 2 q QuickNet h Henge Net l Local Net B Bridge Net ? What net form?
#481 55 Mon Feb 3 02:16:49 1992 [.] GridMaker [.] @ The Log Cabin, Seattle, WA
OK folks, from here on the updates are up to you guys so to speak - sysop netmail will go out in a few days, soon as I check routes (again...) Any net connection with a "?" means I don't know what type of net connection it is - PLEASE communicate that!
#488 55 Mon Feb 3 10:41:19 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
Thank You very much GridMaker!
#484 55 Mon Feb 3 19:06:38 1992 Fred @ Fred's Toy, Bothell
I wonder if there's any chance of picking up connections in Bellingham or eastern WA. Anyone know of compatable Cits out there?
#486 55 Mon Feb 3 23:43:13 1992 Shane Johnson @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
JJ: Creative Concepts is no-longer netting... and the number 433-8084 is not my number anymore... Please change it to an "Un-listed" entry for now... I'll get you the new number as soon as the Citadel to Unix conversion is completed (and after I get my system up at least 10% more than it is...) I'm really busy with several things right now, and would like to keep the "CON" net prefix... as "concept" is going to be the name of the Xenix system when it comes up.
#490 55 Tue Feb 4 08:53:01 1992 [Mess with the best] Angela Davis [die like the rest.] @ Amber, Bellevue
There is at least one Citadel in Bellingham. Ask Hero@Paradise about it.
#498 55 Tue Feb 4 10:29:30 1992 [Hotel Coral Essex Sysop] Confederate Yankee [The General Manager] @ Hotel Coral Essex, Irving/Dallas
GRIDMAKER!!! Umm,, you should note the following.... Mason-Dixon Line went down in October, Hotel Coral Essex (Hi TaleTeller!) is now what use to be Mason-Dixon Line... (Everyone get that??? *GRIN*) Later...
#491 55 Tue Feb 4 15:36:56 1992 Hero @ Paradise, Tacoma, USA/WA/PIERCE
There is. It's "Road to Emmaus" and it runs CenCit. We network using Net1.1
#497 55 Tue Feb 4 15:40:53 1992 Kid Charlemagne @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon, Blue Station
(not the real) graceland is running a MAVENCIT, not an acit.
#492 55 Tue Feb 4 17:52:34 1992 [.] GridMaker [.] @ The Log Cabin, Seattle, WA
Aaack, I >>HATE<< it when people just put stuff in public here :( Please check out & see if you have a route to NetGridMaker, and send e-mail to there whenever possible with net grid updates - I do the updates to the net grid file offline, on my portable, and if I try to capture stuff from here it's much more of a pain; You also can send e-mail to gridmaker @ The Log Cabin, and that gets forwarded to the NetGridMaker node. Nice coding on Zen's part :) If you can't get a net connect through to NetGridMaker OR The Log Cabin, then do use a pubic post here - but be aware that it's a nasty pain for me :( - and make sure you complain about the lack of path, maybe together we can make the path work out... I'll reroute this coming weekend for any nodes I can't find, and send another set of "pings" - then if all goes well a revised grid will be out a few days to a week after that... With work it usually works best for me to do it on the weekends!
#494 55 Tue Feb 4 18:50:12 1992 [My aim] Little Nemo [is true] @ Slumberland, Seattle, US 206 283-6771
A "pubic post", gridmaker?
#485 55 Wed Feb 5 00:33:56 1992 [sysop] Steve Baxter [206-786-9248] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Fred> There >was< Incubus BBS in Ellensberg, WA. (509-962-3584) I don't know if it's still running. I offered to net but he was planning to net with a Seattle node by mailing diskettes back and forth every day. I haven't called in a while. There might be a node going public in Walla Walla soon. I will net there if possible. I have also sent the software to the Spokane area and we might get a call from there at any time.
#495 55 Wed Feb 5 00:49:00 1992 Livia @ Amber, Bellevue, US WA 206 643 9643
It's more of a pain for us to send email, JJ. Having it done in public also allows corrections to be made more easily: if sysop A doesn't respond, and sysop B posts what s/he thinks is A's info, but makes mistakes, others can clarify. And if it's all in one room, it can't be that hard to capture using alt-p.
#493 55 Wed Feb 5 02:13:02 1992 New York SysOp @ Suzy's Creamcheeze, Hell's Kitchen - Clinton, US NY 212 594-7675
New node here. Suzy's Creamcheeze 1 212 594-7675 Hell's Kitchen(really!), Clinton, New York, NY. Running MavenCit 3.13.00m. Update your route files. Netting with PhotoSynthesis.
#496 55 Wed Feb 5 05:39:07 1992 Zog T. Barbarian [, be ] @ Fantasia UnLtd., North Seattle Hell
or to read, eh?
#509 55 Wed Feb 5 14:39:23 1992 [When in doubt,] Don't Ask [for fruitcake.] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Drop TAT from the list... It's gone down, probably permanently. Equipment failure.
#500 55 Wed Feb 5 18:48:45 1992 The Evil Prince @ Suzy's Creamcheeze, Hell's Kitchen - Clinton, US NY 212 594-7675
Hi Babs!
#502 55 Thu Feb 6 00:06:09 1992 [My aim] Little Nemo [is true] @ Slumberland, Seattle, US 206 283-6771
weird. I'm not getting any doubling here. I did have a weird crash the other night while a backup cron event was happening. Maybe something got tweaked. ANyone else running into trouble?
#505 55 Thu Feb 6 08:14:46 1992 [Sysop of] Bugs Bunny [Acme Looniversity - 933-8544] @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon, Blue Station
Babs? Babs Bunny?
#506 55 Thu Feb 6 11:40:56 1992 [My aim] Little Nemo [is true] @ Slumberland, Seattle, US 206 283-6771
My backup was done AFTER the crash. That would help things any, would it?
#499 55 Thu Feb 6 18:08:30 1992 [Nothing But] Twoflower @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
Due to some strange message table error, the occasional networked message here has doubled. I don't know if it will be passed on anywhere else. It seems slumberland (when netting) did something to the message table. When I logged in just after slumberland logged out (I was also logged in just BEFORE slumberland called) it gave me 'can 't find message #XXXXX at byte XXXX' errors, on all messages. I did a control-alt-del and reconfig, and it seems to have been fixed, but some of the messages passed here from slumberland were copies of earlier messages. Bizzare.
#501 55 Thu Feb 6 18:13:18 1992 TaleTeller @ The NeverMind, Disputed
Hi Confederate Yankee!
#504 55 Fri Feb 7 00:50:05 1992 Joe Carrasquillo @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
Twoflower, it sounds like Slumberland reconfigured itself somehow. I hope Wendi made recent backups, that would certainly correct the message data and tables. I hope US West corrects the situation stat too.
#503 55 Fri Feb 7 08:50:05 1992 San San @ PhotoSynthesis, Seattle, US WA 206 323 2433
Anyone now the number for the boards in Nashville?
#507 55 Fri Feb 7 11:00:23 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
Beowulf, and Nighthawk, you both have access (again) to Memory Alpha, and I fixed your names... forget your passwords when you logged in the second time? ;)
#511 55 Sat Feb 8 15:01:46 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
No problem... I just nuked the old accounts, and fixed the names on the new ones. :)
#510 55 Sat Feb 8 20:52:30 1992 NightHawk @ Destination: VOID, Kent, USA/WA/KING
Heather: Apparently I have forgotten my init and pw: I usually try to use variations of specific themes and the one I though I"d used was not it. :) It'll come to me eventually :)
#508 55 Sun Feb 9 02:25:11 1992 [Once again] Saphyre [has a new # 725-5512] @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon, Blue Station
GAWD, I hate that Bab's thingey.... (smile)....
#520 55 Sun Feb 9 06:53:53 1992 [***===[] Ron House []===***] @ Mystic Frenzy, Cedar Hill, Texas
"Who Am I" Nashville, Tennessee Running FredCit 615-833-5322 WAI WHO Route through MF Sysop - "Don't Ask" I am not being smartelic, that is his nym... hehe ;-)
#512 55 Sun Feb 9 13:41:22 1992 Beowulf [Sysop] @ Mayday 1, (206)548-9447
Yeah, what NightHawk said :)
#517 55 Sun Feb 9 18:54:52 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
You're welcome!!! BTW, you still want to net, Beo?
#513 55 Sun Feb 9 19:52:05 1992 [Perceive...] Jeremiah Johnson [...] @ The Log Cabin, Seattle, WA
Livia, all: How dang easy do ya think it is for ME to gather info from 3 rooms (WAN, Networking, AND Other Boards)? Yeah it's more of a pain for YOU to send e-mail; and a HELL of a pain for me if you don't... I've made it possible for any sysop to send mail to GridMaker @ TLC (provided of course that they have a route to here) and that gets forwarded to NET. I have a few things to do with my life other than working so that you don't have to send one piece of mail, apiece, once in a while... I may gather info, >>ONLY FROM WAN ADMIN<<, in the future if there's a worthwhile amount of info in here & not so much other stuff... Just don't want to spend hours editing massive print logs every two weeks or so to save you time... It's not like it's really all THAT hard to type .eegridmaker@TLC q^K^Rgridinfo.cit@XS. That's a whole 35 keystrokes or so... Gods what a whole lot of work, once a month or so...
#514 55 Sun Feb 9 20:54:59 1992 Livia @ Amber, Bellevue, US WA 206 643 9643
JJ: you didn't answer my point about public posts (as opposed to email) of net info allowing for immediate correction of errors.
#516 55 Sun Feb 9 23:38:47 1992 Beowulf [Sysop] @ Mayday 1, (206)548-9447
Hey works for me:) Thanks, Heather.
#515 55 Mon Feb 10 00:48:30 1992 [Nothing But] Twoflower @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
Wait, JJ, don't bother with it at all. Beowulf believes you're just attempting to get control of the network.
#518 55 Mon Feb 10 10:44:42 1992 Beowulf [Sysop] @ Mayday 1, (206)548-9447
Ah, the man that prides himself on lacking honor, speaks words of no value or meaning, yet again. Sorta too flowery, isn't it?
#522 55 Mon Feb 10 18:50:08 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
:) I even sent you net mail, since I wasn't sure if you read this room, Beo! :D
#521 55 Mon Feb 10 23:52:30 1992 Beowulf [Sysop] @ Mayday 1, (206)548-9447
Sure thing, Heather. I'll wander on over to Memory Alpha, and we can discuss particulars.
#519 55 Tue Feb 11 00:34:12 1992 [Nothing But] Twoflower @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
I have as of yet to say I pride myself on lacking humor. I, personally, believe that I have a sense of humor. But then again, that's in the eye of the beholder. Just hope it isn't in Beholder's eye. I doubt he'd like that.
#523 55 Tue Feb 11 15:38:48 1992 She-Zog @ Fantasia UnLtd., North Seattle Hell
Beo, ya can't recognize a sense of humor if ya don't own one yourself
#524 55 Tue Feb 11 18:41:32 1992 [Perceive...] Jeremiah Johnson [...] @ The Log Cabin, Seattle
Livia: read it. If it's public in WAN Admin, then I'll gather it. I agree, maybe there's a slight advantage to public posts; there are also disadvantages for me (MY point which ya don't seem to note!) as well as disadvantages for anyone who feels it's OK to share their phone # with me but doesn't care to share it with the whole net... Still can't reach most of the net anyways due to a lack of routing on many boards, especially for newer nodes (of course!) It's a software problem, and solving it via making the sysops work harder to do maintenance is at best a stopgap measure, but the only measure we can take at present...
#525 55 Wed Feb 12 07:17:49 1992 Beowulf [Sysop] @ Mayday 1, (206)548-9447
I may even get that mail, someday, Heather:) Meanwhile, I write you down on Memory Alpha.
#527 55 Wed Feb 12 15:33:28 1992 [Once again] Saphyre [has a new # 725-5512] @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the moon, Blue Station
well you can add a route to Not the real Graceland in Georgia to Shades and a route to Acme Looniversity to Shades and soon a route to Columbia Crest BBS with Shades.
#528 55 Wed Feb 12 23:04:26 1992 [Nothing But] Twoflower @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
Geeze, sounds like Shades is becoming a clearing house...:)
#526 55 Wed Feb 12 23:53:55 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
You got it, Beo, you even ANSWERED it! (That's how I know you got it!) :)
#530 55 Thu Feb 13 07:03:11 1992 Beowulf [Sysop] @ Mayday 1, (206)548-9447
C'mon Heather, you and I know how much E-mail a sysop has to deal with everyday. It is hard to keep track of who you are talking to about what. By the way, were you the one that was talking about exotic male undergarments? :)
#529 55 Thu Feb 13 20:01:46 1992 Captain James T Kirk @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
Again Sence i don't get any room better... How do you tell DragCit to use a filename for a hall description???
#534 55 Fri Feb 14 00:29:05 1992 Bruce @ Greenspace, Seattle
**************** * Please note * **************** If you are of the mind that US West (or GTE) will not charge BBS lines business rates because access to the BBS is free, I'd encourage you to read the following article, which is now becoming one of many in regional and national publications, including Communications Daily. I will be happy to keep people posted as we get more info, but would prefer to it in its own room. Greenspace nets with Fred's Toy, TurboTech, Outer Limits, Log Cabin. I would consider adding another node or two to the calling list if there is interest. Room on Greenspace is called "Phone Tariffs" for those systems interested in netting the room. I DO BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETING SYSOPS AND USERS SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO. Some folks in Indiana did not, and now some sysops are paying business rates even though they don't charge for access. Feel free to post this article for users as well as sysops. BBS Controversy Brews Close to Home by Bruce Miller In a case before the Public Utility Commission of Oregon, US West is maintaining three phone lines connected to a free-access BBS in a residence should be billed at business rates. Because of the similarities in tariffs from state to state and US West's position in the case, many are predicting that if US West prevails, the company will be authorized to raise all Oregon BBS lines to business rates and try to raise rates for BBS lines in US West's remaining 13 states: Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming. The case started when Tony Wagner, Portland system operator of First Choice Communications BBS, received a letter from US West (Portland) in October 1991. In the letter, Communications Consultant Sandie Ouellette said "Bulletin board services are considered a business, therefore, subject to business rates." Wagner filed a formal complaint against US West's reclassification from residence to business rates in October 1991. A hearing was held in December 1991. In January 1992 US West filed its opening brief (Docket UC #205) in defense of its reclassification actions. Wagner is being represented by Portland Attorney Kevin Myles and Wagner's brief is due by March 3, 1992. A date for a final decision is not yet known. In the US West brief, Seattle US West attorney Steven Holmes made three arguments to support US West's actions: A) US West's tariffs require BBS operators be charged business rates. Holmes summed up this argument with: "Mr. Wagner provides a service that he advertises as openly available; he receives and transmits voluminous calls and messages in which he takes no personal interest and which would be impossible for him to read; he carries programmers who advertise shareware; and he admits there is no effective way to police whether 'millions of users' are offering services for money. USWC can only conclude that Mr. Wagner's network use is not 'obviously domestic,' and must charge its business rates for Mr. Wagner's BBS lines." In quantifying voluminous, Holmes cited caller statistics provided by Wagner. The number and average length of calls to Wagner's system adds up to an average of 32.6 hours a month or 4.5% of a 30-day month for each of the three lines. The US West brief did not address the social use of BBSs under the tariffs. The Oregon definition of residence service, which is exactly the same as Washington state's definition, includes: "A class of service furnished to a residence or place of dwelling where the use is primarily social or domestic." B) Mr. Wagner's position erodes the [Utility Commission's] obligation to set rates based partially on US West network use. Holmes claimed: "The voluminous amount of information that Mr. Wagner testified is carried through the network both by callers dialing in to his BBS and by callers leaving information to be retrieved by others is clearly not contemplated. Residence rates are therefore an improper vehicle for recovering the costs associated with Mr. Wagner's use of USWC's network." C) Billing Mr. Wagner's BBS lines at business rates promotes the Oregon Legislature's goal of universal telephone service. Holmes stated: "To promote the Legislature's goal, basic residence service is billed at artificially low levels and subsidized by other services. . . . There is no evidence that the Legislature intended that BBS service providers should have their hobby subsidized by other rate payers." Similar arguments are being made by Southwestern Bell in an attempt to charge business rates for BBSs in Missouri. One Seattle Attorney interested in telecommunications said these attempts by the phone companies to raise rates for BBSs are "just another attempt by the phone companies to swipe people's communication." --end--
#531 55 Fri Feb 14 00:58:23 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
No... but I can start, if you want! ;)
#532 55 Fri Feb 14 00:59:02 1992 [Memory Alpha SysGoddess] Heather R. Scott @ Memory Alpha, Kent, US 206 859 6200
Captain James T Kirk: I just use a filename for a room description that describes the hall the room is linked to.
#535 55 Fri Feb 14 01:22:12 1992 [Once again] Saphyre [has a new # 725-5512] @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the Moon, Blue Station
naw, Beo that must have been me! and yuppers...a clearing house how fun.... it's all part of that great conspiracy >SMILE< hey, Twoflower, when are we gonna start netting.
#536 55 Fri Feb 14 04:42:03 1992 She-Zog @ Fantasia UnLtd., North Seattle Hell
Beo.... I believe you are referring to JoAnne and her talk of shirts and shorts in one piece.... to combat those nasty hemlines.
#3302 55 Fri Feb 14 06:06:55 1992 [Lookout, it looks like] Monster Dog ['s got his dogmatron ready!] @ St. Dismas' Infirmary, Washington D.C.
V ya gotta get us online soon. I'm jonesin' for west-coast info.
#537 55 Fri Feb 14 13:36:38 1992 [Nothing But] Twoflower @ Milliways, Bainbridge Island, WA/US/(206)842-2419
Saphyre: I keep remembering that. How about next week I go through the room list you left and decide a few things. I don't have time now, and I won't be back until Monday or Tuesday. Hard to ignore that article, as it was written by Bruce.
#533 55 Fri Feb 14 14:50:01 1992 [Clear the roads...] Captain James T Kirk [Audin's in trafic safty...] @ Columbia Crest BBS, Olympia, US 206 786 9248
Heather, thanks... I'd seen that befor, but didn't know how it was done.
#1502 55 Sat Feb 15 02:46:19 1992 [Once again] Saphyre [has a new # 725-5512] @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the Moon, Blue Station
Sounds great Twoflower...I'll have time either Wed. or Thursday to fix my netting where necessary so that will work out well
#1503 55 Sat Feb 15 11:11:58 1992 Cave Bear @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
NetGridMaker, ad the following bbs as netting actively; Dreamscape Auburn, WA. running RoscoeCit 2400bps. Nets with Cave Bear's Laire. Sysops Paul & Kat. Please confirm. Mail is: Dreamscape, The Far Side, Au/WA/USA. (206) 939-3998/(206) 631-1159 are the numbers. Note: Dreamscape and BBSers Anonomous (Dan Raybelle) have merged into one node.
#1504 55 Sat Feb 15 16:11:24 1992 Beowulf [Sysop] @ Mayday 1, (206)548-9447
Ah, yes... I still thing an ANSI picture would help:)
#3303 55 Sun Feb 16 07:21:11 1992 agent v @ Mosquito Coast, DC
...all right. Will strengthen the link this week. #route to Fred's Toy and whatever systems are most important to you through MOS, and I'll use Testbed and MOS to pull in whatever information you think is needed. Drop a line to Fred and whatever sysops you want to get news from for a list of their shareable rooms. Talk to you later... ---v
#3304 55 Sun Feb 16 18:12:38 1992 [Psycho babble is] Monster Dog ['s speciality.] @ HarDCore BBS, Washington D.C.
Coolness, thanks v!
#2194 55 Mon Feb 17 04:56:43 1992 [Made in the U.S.A.] Pat Jankowiak [@ the controls] @ Cat hair Zone, Dallas
the phone companies do not care about us. they do not need us. they care only about : 1. money 2. appearing to do what is required by law.
#2200 55 Mon Feb 17 13:05:00 1992 [Who Am I BBS] Don't Ask [(615)833-5322] @ Who Am I, Nashville
Note to all: WAI was experiencing some software-related problems over the weekend (namely, the room file screwed itself), and some messages may bounce because of the resetting I did. Please direct all letter bombs to me in care of Who Am I BBS... Sorry.
#2193 55 Mon Feb 17 17:53:10 1992 Cave Bear @ Cave Bear's Laire, Kent
Yeah Centauri, but you're in Cali-alley and Heather is in Seattle weather. :)
#2195 55 Tue Feb 18 12:42:25 1992 [My aim] Little Nemo [is true] @ Slumberland, Seattle, US 206 283-6771
to all concerned: Slumberland is now netting with Thee Crossroads.
#2197 55 Wed Feb 19 01:57:40 1992 [My aim] Little Nemo [is true] @ Slumberland, Seattle, US 206 283-6771
weird. got a couple of messages doubling from thee crossroads. with a path slumberland!thee crossroads!slumberland. weird.
#2196 55 Wed Feb 19 03:51:52 1992 [Once again] Saphyre [has a new # 725-5512] @ Shades of Blue, Dark side of the Moon, Blue Station
oh yeah...Shades is netting with Thee Crossroads also
#2199 55 Wed Feb 19 12:27:47 1992 Fred @ Alpha Complex, Tukwila
Be careful Pat, the phone companies also want for us to not notice what they're doing. Look at how they implimented that last electronic communications tarrif. Lots of public response, mostly negative, then they waited about a year, then they did it, when we weren't looking. Nasty.
#2198 55 Wed Feb 19 12:57:15 1992 Doctor Dee @ Thee Crossroads, Seattle, Washington/U.S.A.
Yeah, I've gotten a couple of wierd ones too. To sysop from Shades of Blue... Let me know if any other wierdness occurs please.
#3305 55 Fri Feb 21 08:25:53 1992 [Sysop of St. Dismas Infirmary] Monster Dog [the Bad Karma BBS] @ St. Dismas' Infirmary, Washington D.C.
Hey v, are we gonna start getting stuff from the nat'l net soon?
#2694 55 Sat Feb 22 16:23:43 1992 [Chateau Aspen SysOp] Dave [N7VWL] @ Chateau Aspen, Burien
Chateau Aspen is now networking with Dreamscape
#3306 55 Sun Feb 23 10:48:06 1992 agent v @ Mosquito Coast, DC
...I think our feed for this room is one other than the system that we are connected to. Let me hook up another twice a week thing here, back in a flash... ---v ...Okay, that should be taken care of. Let's see how things go.. ---v
#3307 55 Tue Feb 25 09:33:02 1992 [Bad Karma from] Monster Dog [courtesy of Dr. Doom] @ HarDCore BBS, Washington D.C.
Not going well! Still no national echo.
#2815 55 Tue Feb 25 13:43:04 1992 TUNA [is the SysStud at GEIL!] @ GEIL BBS, Olympia, USA 206-943-2136
ok...
#3308 55 Tue Feb 25 17:26:23 1992 [harDCore BBS (301)933-6571] Too Tall [Wash. D.C. (Dodge City USA)] @ HarDCore BBS, Washington D.C.
Awww man. Have faith. Howdy world!!! SYSOP Too Tall here inviting all to call harDCore BBS. We speak from the heart of darkness in Washington D.C. where the senators are congress and lawyers play. I am very interested in sharing a room or two with some other Fredcits. In the past I have heard from "who am I" in Tennesse. If yer out there, give a holler and we can set up the net.
#3309 55 Wed Feb 26 05:56:07 1992 [Very weird] chester cheetah [is in a sensitive position ;/] @ St. Dismas' Infirmary, Washington D.C.
Too Tall... ya t yer wish. Filez (text) comin' atcha...
#3300 55 Wed Feb 26 13:30:07 1992 Livia @ Amber, Bellevue, US WA 206 643 9643
Fred: it's not possible that the netting problem is on my end; Amber hasn't called Fred's Toy since November. (We're doing one-way netting through Gremlink, remember?)
#3301 55 Wed Feb 26 20:50:55 1992 Fred @ Fred's Toy, Bothell
OK. I just saw a good net happen with Amber. Looks like we're ok.
#3310 55 Thu Feb 27 03:22:41 1992 Livia @ Amber, Bellevue, US WA 206 643 9643
Glad to hear it. I need that Windows Programming room! :)
#3311 55 Thu Feb 27 05:17:55 1992 Zog T. Barbarian @ Fantasia UnLtd., North Seattle Hell
yo! DC howsit go'in over dea wit youse guys? (couldn't help myself, sorry dudes) :)
#3312 55 Thu Feb 27 10:01:25 1992 Fred @ Fred's Toy, Bothell
Me too Livia. FYI: The link between the toy and MOS is back up.
#3313 55 Thu Feb 27 20:23:00 1992 [Christ] Angela Davis @ Amber, Bellevue, US WA 206 643 9643
Does FredCit dump paths?
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